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WSJ: 2 New iPhones coming

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by JFB, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. JFB

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    That's shocking that they're going CDMA now. I figured they'd wait till Verizon went LTE.
     
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    I'll believe it when Apple announces it. There's been too much speculation about a CDMA iPhone for a long time. It's all rumor until an official announcement.
     
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    Doesn't Verizon plan to continue to use CDMA for voice even after they have LTE up and running?
     
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    I'm not sure.
     
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    Yes. LTE will be for data. They're not moving away from CDMA for the long foreseeable future (maybe by 2020 or so).
     
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    Oh, I thought I heard they were keeping CDMA for another 5 years or so.
     
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    I read the article, and it seems that even if these rumors are true, there won't be any Verizon iPhones until the Christmas 2010 buying season, at the earliest. If they decide to delay for whatever reason, the launch won't be until 2011. I wouldn't expect an official Apple announcement until just before the launch.


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    Even if Verizon wanted to, they couldn't do voice over LTE. LTE doesn't have a voice specification, yet. Recently it appears that the big players have settled on the GSMA's OneVoice Initiative over VoLGA
     
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    I'm in the camp that will only believe it when it comes from Apple. There has been too many rumors about this topic for far too long with no truth to any of them.

    ~*Ash*~
     
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    Same here, there has been rumors about a CDMA iPhone for the longest time. I highly doubt there will be and only believe it when Apple announces it. As far as the specs, I doubt they will put in a forward facing camera. That was rumored to be in the 3GS but of course it wasn't included.
     
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    Interesting second article. But it still sounds like a rumor to me. As much as I'd like to see Verizon get a version of the phone, I'm not going to pin all my hopes on it. This could be just another false alarm.

    Still, I'll wait to see what Apple announces regarding the next upcoming iPhone (VZ version or not) before believing these rumors, UNLESS there is absolute proof revealed before.

    Edit: PCWorld is speaking my language. This article echoes my feelings about the latest "umpteenth" Verizon iPhone rumor:

    Apple's iPhone on Verizon: 4 Reasons to Think Twice - PCWorld
     
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    I still think there are more possibilities of an iPhone on T-Mobile rather than Verizon.
     
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    It really comes down to how interested Apple is in growing their US market share and what they're willing to spend to do it. At this point, they've probably tapped the majority of people with or willing to switch to AT&T. A new iPhone this year is unlikely to add new features, just upgraded hardware so I'm not sure how much market share they'll gain. Pretty much it will be mostly people who bought the 3G in 2008 and are now at end of contract.
     
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    Yeap, thats me! :)

    Although I think that new (better) hardware will likely bring new features to make it more attractive to sell.
     
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    It's a nice and well done article, but Verizon's future as stated in the article is a bunch of speculation and so-called "possibilities" but nothing seems concrete. I also would be very surprised if anything gelled by the years end. At the moment I have no need to be anxious, my TIMobile contract doesn't end till Oct of 2011! Even then I still may stick with BB...we'll see! :)
     
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    I think the rumors continue to persist for two reasons. One, a CDMA phone wouldn't just be in a few countries like the US, South Korea, and Japan. It could also be sent to India and China. They're further behind in the upgrade path. A CDMA iPhone could be huge there, large enough to justify the phone all by itself. Second, Apple had its Macintosh operating system running on Intel processors almost from the beginning. Apple is known from having projects that never see the light of day. I would be surprised if they did not to have a CDMA phone in labs especially with the rumor that Verizon was their first target.

    I'm not saying it'll ever be sold. I just think that its existence is extremely likely.
     
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    Well, for voice over LTE, it's either IMS or VoLGA, and actually, I believe most operators will probably be going the IMS path. ...including apparently Verizon:

    Verizon Wireless Fosters Global LTE Ecosystem as Verizon CTO Dick Lynch Announces Deployment Plans

    ...however you're in a way right, that there's a split between VoLGA and IMS which is leading to confusion and hesitation. Most current operators aren't in a rush to solve the voice over LTE issue anyway, since they already have an existing 2G/3G network that can handle the voice traffic for the meanwhile. And since the biggest congestion problem thats booming is with data, it makes sense that LTE will be primarily data at first and the voice will fall in later.
     
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    I guess the main question for some is this: if there is a Verizon (cdma) coming out towards the end of 2010, will be be cdma only or cdma + GSM+UTMS?

    The first would be less interesting to the business user, without a SIM card for overseas travel. I believe that Qualcomm has made a chip for the second, but that would be a major step in the iphone evolution.

    The other question is whether Verizon would allow an iPhone to exist with all the freedoms that ATT afforded Apple. iTunes stores purchases, etc.

    Only time will tell. I know that I would have been very frustrated if the tables were turned, and the iPhone only existed on a cdma network. So I do feel for those that desire an iphone but do not want to or can not switch carriers. Although there are getting to be many good iPhone clones out there, with and without a keyboard.

    I think Apple would much rather expend it money on growing the global market. I also worry that with all the concentration on the iPad, that the iPhone will suffer from lack of internal resources from Apple. I hope not.

    So will Google come out with a 'googlePad' ? I liked it better when Apple and Google were aligned instead of in competition with each other. That was a world class team.
     

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