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Wireless Networking Unreliable? POLE

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by humbletech99, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. humbletech99

    humbletech99 New Member

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    I have experienced reliability problems with Wireless 802.11b and 802.11g, at home and at work, using various brands of APs and Clients.

    At work, I've used a 3com AP with 3com wireless pcmcia card, and also in-built adapters in Toshiba and Acer laptops. At home I 've got a Linksys AP and a Broadcom in-built card in my laptop, as well as a Netgear AP and a usb Netgear adapter.

    Whichever brand used, whether brand mixing or using the same brand, I find there are times when it just refuses to work at all. No settings changed, passwords & encryption all right etc etc etc. Triple checked every setting ten times over etc etc etc. I find it usually starts working later on by itself with any intervention.

    I use WPA encryption with strong pre-shared keys.

    I've done various scanning at home and at work to identify other APs in the neighbourhood and made sure to use channels as far apart from them as possible. Also varified that my signals are strong.

    I don't entirely know why this happens, I can't imagine there being that much interference since signal strengths are very good (and we're talking only a few feet in each case here with no walls/obstructions).

    I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced occasional connectivity problems.

    Please feed back your comments and experiences/and or solutions if you have any.
     
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    If we're only talking a few feet w/ no walls or obstructions then why didn't you just buy a switch and have a wired network. Switches are really cheap now. The last one I bought was about a year ago and a 8 port switch was only $50. The 4 port switches were cheaper than the hubs!

    When I first designed my computer network at my store I initially looked at wireless because it was cheaper (only because of the amount of wire used - I used almost an entire spool of Cat 5 E shielded cable ((Very expensive)) wiring up the computers.) We abandoned the wireless idea because of potential interference and security issues. I know nobody can access my network w/o plugging directly into one of my switches. With a wired network based on switches I have a fast, reliable, & secure network.
     
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    What kind of phones do you have? I am talking about 2.4Ghz cordless phones. Sometimes they interfere with WiFi networks. Maybe someone very close to you has one. What about other devices that use 2.4Ghz? There are wireless speakers, bluetooth, etc. that use 2.4Ghz as well.

    Try using a software in your computer called NetStumbler. You can diagnose signal problems with that and measure noise, signal to noise ratio and the like.
     
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    I agree totally with the switch idea, which is what I use!

    I just wanna know why everybody goes on about such an inferior and immature technology? Cabled is more secure, more resilient and reliable and faster.


    Secondly, I don't have many devices at all that operate wirelessly, maybe a couple of mobiles I don't use much, and here at the office there is nothing fancy either. I've never used bluetooth, it just seems like a temporary trendy gimmic.

    I used Netstumbler many times, signal strength at both places was very good, much higher than any other wireless AP detected.

    Even when there are connectivity problems, the strength is still strong, that's what I really find weird. Don't happen that often though.
     
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    As Bobolito said, it is interference of some sort. At home I almost never have a connection issue. I have one 2.4 GHz cordless phone in another room.

    Netstumbler has found 2 other wireless access points around my house.

    Over the past 12 months, I worked on two projects in Taiwan. We had wireless networks at both. Netstumbler picked up 5 or 6 ASPs at the office in Taichung and up to 12 ASPs at the Hsinchu office. Both of these offices had wireless connection problems. Several external ASPs were strong enough that I used them for email when our ADSL dropped out. The wireless connection problems that we had were certainly caused by other interfering wireless networks.
     
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    Signal strength means nothing if you have noise. Look at the Signal-to-Noise Ratio, not the signal strength, in NetStumbler.
    Very simple: it provides freedom/mobility. It's a valuable convenience in many environments. Although wired connections are always faster, more secure and reliable, I wouldn't say WiFi is inferior or immature. WiFi works very well and very reliably when deployed properly. I've never had a problem at home or at work with my WiFi setups.

    Are you using 11b or 11g?
     
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    I use 11g. I've tried both. Although it might be a bit harsh, and may not happen all the time, but if you are relying on showing something or doing something quickly and the connection is lost or even worse, the connection is still "up" but no traffic flows, then it's disastrous. I had that once preparing for a presentation and had to quickly improvise. Bad luck that time but annoying.
     
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    You might want to buy one of those WiFi scanners they sell on the Internet, shut off all your Access Points and computers with WiFi adapters and scan around to see if the scanner can find a signal. That's another way to determine the source of interference. Since the scanner doesn't care what type of signal it is, (just as long as it is in the 2.4Ghz unlicensed band) it may find it easier than NetStumbler.
     
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    that's a good idea! I have always wanted one of those little keyring signal finders, now i guess i have another reason to justify one! Know any good ones?
     

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