will roaming show on my cingular phone bill?

Nope...any roaming calls will just appear to be normal calls on your bill. There will be nothing telling those calls apart from your regular ones.

I can tell you this...you will NOT be roaming at all in Orlando. For one, the coverage is VERY good there. Two, there are no roaming agreements in the Orlando area to roam on anyone else. So, you will just be on native coverage.

 

those calls will show in a different area on your bill...
it will show as calls made while roaming in Orlando... (in this case)

you will not be billed any roaming charges....
the billing computer spits it out this way because there are still people on non-national plans in the system (the old regional plans)...

 

When I travel to Orlando, my calls are grouped in to all my other calls made that month...all together....grouped by day. Even when at&t was Cingular...AND I was on a LOCAL plan..if you can believe that one! ......Back around 2001......I never had a different area on my bill that said "calls made while roaming in Orlando". I think there was just an "R" in the rate code of the call on the bill....and then $.69 after the call...in the charges column.

 

Oh, and don't forget the $5.00 roaming charge tacked on your monthly bill... I had that when I used to roam on a local Cingular plan in 2000-2002. I would have $0.69/min plus a $5 roaming charge on that month's bill.

-Jay

 

Hmmm...I can't remember if I had a flat charge like that on mine or not...I want to say not, as I don't remember having that. In fact...I was "roaming" in Orlando once (although I wasn't *really* roaming...it was native Cingular coverage....but my phone said Cingular Roam) and all I remember is getting hit with the $.69 cents per minute roaming charge....but no other fee. I could be wrong.

MAN I can't believe that! In another city....on your carriers system....and they still charged roaming! And we weren't even roaming!

 

But you were out of your home area... That was the price you paid for having more minutes every month... Personally I chose to have the extra minutes, and once a year I had a bill that had $15 in roaming charges. It may have had something to do with me being on an old grandfathered CellularONE plan at the time.

-Jay

 

most carriers will mark somewhere that the call was a roaming call.........be it by separating it from the rest of the calls or marking it with a billing code......w/e

 

well based on what is on the bille one could see where the call originated from under the call from. beow is what the heading on the Bill details:
Item - Day - Date - Time - Number Called - Call To - Min - Rate Code - Rate Pd - Feature - Airtime charge - LD/Add'l Charge - Total Charge

so if one looks at the Call to one can tell along with the rate code as well as the rate charge.

 

Is there a different billing system out there?
The ONLY thing I used to see in my call list through Cingular in 2001 was a R in the rate code place for roaming.

For the past....oh I can't tell ya....at least 4 years now? There is not a roaming indicator in any of my calls....just rate codes for M2M, VM, NW, DT or CW(Call waiting)

If I make a call in Roaming on the weekend, the call will just have a NW rate code on it...just as they do in my home area.

This has been since Cingular wanted to get rid of the word "Roaming" because even though customers were on NATIONAL plans....their phones were saying Cingular Roam and calling CS all the time worried about roaming costs. This is when they went on a lobby to rid of that horrible horrible word...then the phones went to say Cingular Extend while roaming. Customers still didn't understand and got worried...so they did away with that too and now dont display any roaming indication on the phone. And to not alarm anyone on paper, they sure are not going to put anything in the calls list that even comes close to looking like a roaming anything. They don't want calls to start pouring in again

 

There must be.

I looked up my bill from when I was out west last year and roaming ever since leaving Lincoln, NE, and mine does not have any roaming indicator or a separate section.

I also looked up my bill from when I was in Portugal and then the international roaming is on a separate section just below the standard call details:

 

Wait. I am not saying that it is there but was saying one can in a way see his/her roaming call log (based on outgoing) and if there is a charge for roaming (for those who are on local and which I thought is no longer there) then the charge itself will also be an indicator. Other than those i was never able to tell if it is roaming or not.

 

This is not correct as you can see from the attachment I posted in my first post.

Only International Roaming is separated out and marked as roaming.

 

I agre. I only see the internation roaming being put into its own serate section. Actualy my bills always shows one table for each country. So if I roamed in 3 countries I end up seeing 3 tables.

 

if you have detailed billing, domestic calls that are roaming will be marked "roaming" and the minutes are counted. but there is no charge. end of discussion.

 

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Sorry Eric, I do have detailed billing & I posted a part of my bill, there is nothing marked on the domestic roaming calls.

I guess it is not the end of discussion - perhaps it is different in different markets. Shizam & I are in the same market.

 

I have detailed billing and I don't see that either. I also looked at some of my older bills from when i was in NY (which is a diferent billing system) they also did not show.

As a fact here is what the codes are on the bills:
Call To: **=International Call Terminated to Mobile
Rate Code: RM45=450 Rollover Mins, MME0=Unlimited Expd M2M, N&W
Rate Period (PD): DT=Daytime, NW=Nwknd
Feature: M2MC=EXPANDED M2M, VM=MESSAGE PLUS, CW=CALL WAITING

And as you said, it is not the end of discussion .

 

Perhaps you have a screen shot to illustrate this? I've never seen roaming (other than international) appear on my bill and I know I've been roaming domestically on several occasions.

 

it does show pending market... in the NE and SE most predominatly... if you central or west its a different billing computer and a slightly different presentation

if you are NE or SE you will see calls made while roming in XXXXXX if in USA the charge is nothing...

 

What is your defination of NE? Looks like it does not show in VA or NY either.

 

ill screen shot it today. trust me, in markets where there is domestic roaming in your area, it will show because they will monitor it.

 

I never saw that while living in NY (till Oct. 07) and I now I roamed in a few places localy and while traveling. I am in VA and dont see it here. I know for sure that I am on a diferent billing system here in VA than the one I was on when in NY (found that out becuase of the location cange). I also learned that the NE will also be moved over to the same billing system that is beng used in the VA market and many other ones (I wsh I could remember the name of the 2 billings systems ).

 

I have seen domestic roaming on my bill & the best part about it is, I don't roam on anyone in my area.

I have seen NYC with "R" and down in Middlesex County it has shown as "R" so it does happen even though there is no charge for the roaming.
I am sure if they have it showing up in a non-roaming area, it will show in a roaming area as well.

 

Tom,

I think the tread has gotten a bit off track as the original discussion was not about "R" in a column (which could be a remnant of a Local vs. National plan), it was about the separate grouping mentioned in the post I quoted above yours — have you seen that on your bill?

 

No I have not seen it as a separate grouping on my bill, just as I had mentioned and I think I needed more coffee before I replied

 

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elmo & Eric, Seems like only the at&t reps have the priviledge of seeing the domestic roaming itemized out & in a separate section of the monthly bill.

Please post a screen shot of this for the rest of us.

You know what the saying is "a picture is worth a thousand words"

 

its on their bill. paper copy. its plain as day for people that apply via market/etc.

when i get time to breath ill post it.