Verizons new services and phones

Yeah i was skecptical too! Oh well, i guess i should sell it then!

 

I'd like to be considered a moderator, but, that will not be until later. I feel as if there are a few other users which deserve Moderator status, just because of the fact that they help out a lot, and are very informed on what they are talking about, but, Mod's aren't for me to decide so, I will keep posting, and try to be a good asset to this forum....anybody else with me?


-J.T

 

I heard from a Verizon rep that I trust (he hasn't been wrong so far) that some of the phones that are currently out there (he mentioned the 720, the 4400, and the 120e specifically) are PTT capable but needed a software upgrade to be usable. I can understand that they all have side buttons that theoretically could be converted to use for PTT, but none have speakerphone capability. However given the volume of the 4400's speaker for the ringer, it may very well be a possibility. Also, who says that to have PTT you must have a speakerphone? I know it would be more convenient and thanks to crap-tel that is what everyone is used to, but they also have an option to use the PTT with the earpiece and not just the speaker. Or maybe it is not a side button at all. Maybe the software upgrade will add a different mode to the menu and you will use one of the softkeys for the PTT button.

 

**EXACTLY RALLYKID!** LOL. Every point you made in your post, is exactly what I was talking about. Theroretically, PTT is possible on some of Verizon's current phones, and a speaker phone isn't really necessary. *HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!*

--J.T

 

That was the coolest award ever.

As for the whole Moderator thing, if they ever wanted me to do it I would, but that's not why I'm still posting on these forums.

Although it may be true that many existing phones on the market could be updated to be PTT phones, I still doubt that we'll see it happen with many of them. Alot of these phones are becoming outdated in terms of features and services, and many of them are not 1xrtt capable, which is a requirement for VZ's PTT. I think instead that the manufacturers would rather market new phones with new services, and make money, which is what they're in the business of doing. Why come out with a free software update, when you can come out with a phone that will sell for $100 or more?

Rallykid (nice to see you around again) brings up a good point with the fact that a "button on the side" and spearker phone are not requirements to be a PTT phone, but I still don't see it happening.

 

I agree Ceno. I think that those phones mentioned could be updated, because they are 1X compatiable, such as my v120e.

--J.T

 

Yeah, but I still think Moto would just rather release a whole new phone and capitalize on it.

 

Yes, profit-wise bringing a new phone out would be the better option than spending money on distribution, manhours and marketing for a software upgrade.

i would be horrible to have moto sell more t720's "NOW WITH A PTT OPTION" or have people looking around for the phone they like that has been discontinued just because "it can now do ptt"
horrible strategy

if anything VZW and manufacturers will focus more on making new phones and phasing out the old ones like they always do.

Nice to see you around again RallyKid, ill take you out for a beer, and then we can mosh at the beat of Landser. OI OI!

 

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.

 

Yes, I agree completely.

--J.T

 

But the Verizon website said the 530 supports mobile ip

Specifically : UP 4.1.261

The Tech support Rep said that meant it was cabale of PTT when it comes out. ( If i take his word on that...)


But then again the website also says that the 530 also has 128MB of flash and an Sram size of 32 MB

 

Yeah, it may be possible on that phone, but it would still require a software update. Last I checked, there was no PTT option in the menu of that phone.

 

Mobile IP has nothing to do with PTT.

 

Well that is what the tech told me. I really don't know if its true or not. Mobile IP could be used for Voice over IP i suppose though. Not sure how verizon does things for PTT though.


I notice its the only phone that has Mobile IP support on the website. So if its not used for PTT what is it used for? Just curious if anyone knows.


Thanks in advance guys.

 

Lets just say tha VZW offers an upgrade for existent phones (720 for example) to PTT.. I doubt they would sell it..Probably include it in a contract change..

If that becomes the case, can we use PST to possibly bootleg the upgrade and whatnot?

 

Verizon Wireless Mobile IP services are a family of wireless data services based on Cellular Digital Packet Data (CDPD or Wireless IP) technology. CDPD is IP-based, contention-based, inherently secure, and economical, making it ideal for both vertical market solutions and Web-based applications such as browsing and e-mail. And Mobile IP services use a CDPD modem, not a phone, so you can use your preferred data device, whether it's a laptop, organizer, ruggedized data terminal, credit card machine, or something else. Best of all, you'll find Mobile IP solutions are virtually plug-and-play.

Click Here for the document source.

Does that mean the A530 is a CDPD modem now?

 

hmmmm, interesting. Thanks Xprt!

 

My pleasure Mr Cashew.

but I still wonder... is the A530 a CDPD modem....?

 

There is no future in CDPD, it was basically a stopgap solution for data on analog networks.

As far as upgrades of existing phones to support PTT, I doubt that would happen. When Sprint launched PCS Vision they had several phones that could have been upgraded but were not because of the massive resources they would have had to put into place. I figure with the launch of PTT you will see new phones....(they are already floating around if you know the right folks.)

 

I agree, but, also, disagree just because sometimes, companies do things, which you wouldn't think they would.

--J.T

 

Tadlock, is your quote an AC plan or local?

 

Well I still say even if the updates are possible, it'll never happen. Too much money to be made marketing new handsets.

 

Corey: It's a local plan. Texas Local Digital Choice to be exact.
Ceno: Yes, and that's very probable. I wish that the new AC plans would come close to my price (between $49.99 and $59.99) for the same for very close to the same amount of minutes and features which I currently have, but, that's just wishful thinking I'm guessing....?

--J.T