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Verizon Turning On 1900Mhz in NNJ/NYC!

Discussion in 'Northeastern US Wireless Forum' started by MeatChicken, Jun 4, 2004.

  1. Andy

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    That is great news!
    I hope those of you who were complaining about dropped calls/ busy network are helped now :D
     
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    Oh...i forgot to add that when my phone was roaming and switching between 800 and 1900 verizon...it did not loose the service, just continuously changed.
     
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    Where was this??
     
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    You mean the call was not dropped? or just not lost signal when it was idling? I would think there's no reason for it to drop the call.
     
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    I was not in a call. I was in the frequency monitor thing. My phone kept on switching to and from 800 and 1900 DIGITAL.
     
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  7. MeatChicken

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    If you get a chance, make a call in the area & tell us what you get on the test screens...
    I should be in the Long/Lido Beach area within a week or so, & I'll check my screens out too...
    Any VZW users in Nassau County reading this that can check their test mode & see if 1900Mhz is up & running in other Nassau areas??
     
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    I was out in the area this past weekend, & my phone never switched to VZW 1900 in the area. While I wasn't in Hewlett itself, I was in the "town next door" & in the general area. (Cedarhurst, Atlantic Beach, Long & Lido Beach, Rockaway Tpke near Penninsula Blvd, Inwood, Far Rockaway ect...)
    Is it possible your Roaming Sprint phone was briefly finding Sprint, not long enough to lock on, so it looked like a VZW 1900 signal?? Were you on a screen where you could see the system ID??
    Keep us posted.... !
     
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    i was in the "advanced phone info" menu. While in this menu, you are able to see the roaming indicator at the top of the screen. In this menu, you can see the SID and channel. The red R never went away during this, so it was always roaming.

    Bye the way, you were very close to me. Im in cedarhurst every day and I live right off Penninsula blvd.
     
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    If you Can, place a call in that area & let me know if you are on a VZW 1900Mhz channel while on a call....
    I'm often on the Beach in Long beach (VZW Full Strength on the beach),.... & as a kid We used to Rent bungalows every summer in Far Rockaway... Before the area went completely down the tubes.. :)
    My VZW contact tells me that here in NJ, the Secaucus "Cluster", as they call it, (of cell sites), is done, & Bergen County is not yet done... None of them have the 1900Mhz actually turned on yet, however....
     
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    Yeah, I am in long beach pretty often. Coverage is pretty good there for Sprint. I work in Atlantic Beach, about 200 yards from a building with what seems like every carrier on it except for T-mobile.Cingular.
     
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    I was back in this Sprint dead zone again today, and re-confirmed that Verizon is in fact transmitting 1900 mHZ PCS signal on SID 22, on various channels.
     
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    How do you know that. Is it something only your Sanyo can display or can any phone display that info. If so, anyone know how to view it on a Moto V60s
     
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    I only know how to do it on the Sanyo 8200 (and probably all newer sanyos).
     
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    Like i told you in PM, my brother came through Penn Station last weekend (I live in NYC now) and couldn't complete calls Friday or Sunday with his Verizon phone. I have occasional trouble with ATT there but can always get out eventually, he said he tried over and over with no luck.
     
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    The frequency hopping: would the phone show the signal strength from the hopping? My phone will almost wlays be 5/5, but when I make calls it can go way down, then way up, while not moving. Sometimes it dips to 3/5 bars on my v400, when I am .2 miles from the tower. ATT GSM never did this. I think it's the switching to 1900 and back, especially at my mom's where the PCS breaks up. I think it tries PCS first(1-3 bars), then realizes the call isn't great, then switches to 4-5 bars (850?) and sounds great.
     
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    Normally this happens when the phone switches to a more distant tower because the closest one is busy.
     
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    I have been staying out on LI, near you, in the Long Beach & Atlantic/Lido Beach areas for the past couple of weeks. By looking at my Nokias test screens, it "seems" that when I find a weak vzw signal area, & force the phone to re-search/aquire the system, it "seems" to see VZW PCS channel(s), but is immediatly put on ch 384 800Mhz cellular to idle (channel where my phone usually always idles).
    I have tried numerous times, but I have not been able to ever get the phone to be on a VZW PCS channel while on a call or while idle, only 800.......
     
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    I my self do not have a Verizon phone, and I am only able to see the verizon data in one very weak spot on my Sprint phone. I dont know how to see what frequency my friends Verizon phones are on. I also have never placed a call while roaming on Verizons network while roaming, i just know that the 1900 mHz signal is there. If you are just able to see the 1900, it may mean that Verizon has turned it on, but it still testing it and not allowing you to really use it. Keep me posted!

    Oh, and have fun on LI.
     
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    Also, If it is a faint PCS signal you may be too far away and you may not be able to use it because your phone prefers the stronger signal anyway.
     
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    Another question to clarify...
    Does your Sprint phone actually lock onto & idle on a VZW 1900Mhz channel in that area, or does the system send your phone to an 800Mhz VZW idle channel, once it locks into "roam" mode??....
     
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    My phone will never settle down on a frequency, the Channel and Frequency are always chaning because the signal is so weak. I need to find a place around here with NO sprint signal, and a strong Verizon signal. Hard to do unless a tower is down.
     
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    Yankee - I have a "suspicion" (Is your phone a "1900 Only" model??), that VZW is not yet currently allowing any phones to sync & "idle" on the new 1900 Freqs until they are fully up & running. This would explain why my (& my wife's) phones are always "bumped down" to 800 when it "seems" to lock onto a 1900 VZW channel in that area.
    If Your Sprint phone is 1900Mhz "only" , this would seem to confirm my suspicions, since the VZW 1900 channels are only there to "bump" phones down to 800 right now, & a 1900 only phone would continue to scan for other PCS channels..........
     
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    Nope..the 8200 is a Dual Band/Tri Mode phone. It will roam on 1900/800 CDMA and 800 AMPS.

    I mom uses the Sanyo 4900 which is CDMA 1900 and AMPS 800 only, and does not have CDMA 800 capabilites. I thought i saw it go into digital roam yesterday for a brief second, but i am not 100% sure.
     
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    I thought Sprint didn't support Digital Roaming?
     
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    Yes they do...
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    there phones back in 2001 and futher back only supported analog roaming. In 2002 tri-mode phones started to come out.
     
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    Did they add Panels since this is 1900 MHz?

    This was a question on the Southern Forum.
     
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    Im pretty sure that Verizon used mostly Dual Band panels in this area, so they were able to just make some minor adjustments. In places where they only built out using 800 MHz panels, they were replaced.
     
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