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Verizon Turning On 1900Mhz in NNJ/NYC!

Discussion in 'Northeastern US Wireless Forum' started by MeatChicken, Jun 4, 2004.

  1. MeatChicken

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    I Spoke to a contact a VZW today, & he confirmed that most of the cell sites in NNJ are either completely equipped & ready to go with 1900, or are in the final stages of being fitted.
    He expects the 1900Mhz channels to be turned on between August & & Sept.
     
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    How does this effect those with tri-mode phones, currently on 800mhz
     
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    It Should be "transparent" to the end-user.
    The added channels will give increased capacity. Those of us with test modes on the phone will be able to "tell" if the phone is idling on 1900 or 800, & what channels.
    Should be similar to AT&T's GSM 800/1900, where the phone idles on one band, & will switch over to the other if it loses signal or the cell "tells" it to.
     
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    It will improve capacity of an overloaded Network. Tri Mode means Analog, 850 and 1900 MHz Digital.
     
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    Thank you, I meant 850Mhz. Lets hope that if and when the change does occur, we all get better service; less dropped calls and less break up.
     
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    I wish they would do this in DC. I think this is a good development but also take it as a sign that they are experiencing serious capacity issues.
     
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    I take it they will do EV-DO on PCS? they will be on stand by on PCS? calls on Cellular?? that will help out NYC and if they did that DC!
     
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    Does anyone know, if there are any plans for such a change in the NYC Metro Area. (Westchester and Fairfield Counties)
     
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    It's all the same market & System ID, NYC/NNJ/LI/ Westchester/Rockland ect. So you could be sure it will or is happening ...
     
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    whats their SID is it 22 ? im on 22 and channel 425 98 percent of the time and im in union county, NJ
     
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    In Fairfield CT 19 and 20
     
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    What areas of NNJ?
     
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    I just want to be able to make moble to mobile calls and not get the 'all circuts are busy' BS.
     
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    You actualy get "all circuits busy" messages? Wow!!! I have yet to get one of thos And I have been working in or around Times square for the last 3 months.
     
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    We never get all circuits busy on VZW here in DC. Quite often though, you get a fast busy signal or no connection which is the same thing essentially.
     
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    yep, same thing in LA......
     
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    If your phone is in an area using the 1900 frquency your in building reception might suffer.
     
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    It souldnt really hurt in building reception. Remember, the 1900mhz channels have been turned on to add capacity to an overloaded 800mhz network. If you cannot recieve a PCS signal, you should still be able to recieve an 800mhz signal.
     
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    Then all of us should be using NEXTEL.
    How come T-Mobile surpass Nextel?
    Nextel shold have the BEST RECEPTION since it uses the lowest band of 800 MHz yet it wants to pay 3 Billion for 1900 MHz.
     
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    The ability to have both 1900 and 800 on a single site is the basis for this thread:

    http://www.wirelessadvisor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1145
     
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    Right...like I was saying the traffic within PCS range can be taken care of on the 1900-band, while traffic needing the longer range of the cell band can be taken care of by the cell-band. So people should notice no difference in coverage, in fact probably increased coverage because there will be less capacity and less pressure for the coverage to shrink
     
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    Been lucky so far none of that yet in LA, SF, NYC, DALLAS, LV .
     
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    I hope they turn on PCS channels for voice in other markets soon. This is a great solution to a capacity issue.
     
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    About time!
     
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    Question, is it possible that using 1900, will deteriorate sound, even further, for those calling from their homes, with a poor signal?
     
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    No it is not. You can have a perfectly fine handoff between PCS and Cellband without any noticable disruption in service. What will happen is that those in range of the PCS signal will use it for voice calls, and as they move farther from base stations or indoors, they will switch to the cellular channels without noticing a difference. So if anything, people should really notice an improvement in voice quality. One thing that makes CDMA unique is that voice quality deteriorates when the network handles increased traffic so as the burden on the network is eased, voice quality could actually improve. Also, voice quality is generally better on the PCS band so there should be some improvement there as well. This is definitely a win for VZW customers here.
     
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    Thanks for the quick answer, Goodman. The last thing I need is worse reception in my home.
     
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    Voice quality is the same in both bands. If you see any difference it is due to other unrelated factors. Don't forget this is digital communications. Frequency makes no difference.
     
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    I always found Sprint to sound much better than Verizon. Any reason for that?
     
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    .. You were influenced by the Subliminal Hypnotic message effect of their "pin Drop" commercials!! :) :)
     
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