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Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by Simon5282, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. RJB

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    There is no reason to tell someone they need to get a spell check good hell sorry noone is perfect like you. Sorry I just hate when people get on here and are grammar freaks just deal with it.
     
  2. Simon5282

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    If I was perfect, I would not use the spell-checker. But I use the hell out of it because I am far from being perfect, and my spelling is atrocious. It was just a suggestion, one that I use, to keep the grammar freaks out there quiet.

    Anyways, I apologize to kashkanantambu if I came across the wrong way.
     
  3. kashkanantambu

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    I'll tkae yuor advsie. Wsan't awrae taht tihs was a spllenig calss.
     
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    LOL now that is funny.
     
  5. M in LA

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    Verizon is the best because Verizon said so...:p
     
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    Well, if we are going to base it on marketing then alltel is the best, because their marketing is the best.

    -Jay
     
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    Than i guess you could say AT&T has the most because they have the most customers......
     
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    I was just being sarcastic because of the many deviations from the original topic this thread seems to have taken.

    In reality, T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T are the best (for me, that is), cuz they got me paying them..:D
     
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    Lol i know mike :)

    for me at&t and alltel work best because they are the only ones up here! :p
     
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    It's all good...I didn't want anyone to think I was serious. Topics like this always get "interesting" responses. :)
     
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    I dont think my CARRIER is better... just the fact that its GSM.

    CDMA ties the hands of most users. Anything wrong with the phone? you are dead in the water until you see your provider, and pay a charge for repair/replacement...and usually at an inflated cost.

    GSM? I just pull my sim out and insert it into either an unlocked phone, or one locked to my provider.


    BTW... we need a thank you button for the second post in this thread.
     
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    I'm not sure if you have heard of things like UMTS and HSDPA. They are a CDMA-based 3G technology more commonly referred to as WCDMA, and that's what GSM carriers are switching to. AT&T has a bunch of cities already covered with HSDPA and T-Mobile is doing the same in 2008.
     
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    ....thanks to our friends at Consumer Reports and JD Power.... :p
     
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    You're welcome... ::D

    -Jay
     
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    Verizon does have a good network and they are darn good of brain washing everyone to belive this as well. Their UI and Crippling phones are their biggest drawbacks IMO but if you talk to the common Verizon customer they really dont care about the UI they just want a phone that works. Alot of these customers are Legacy Airtouch, Quest Wireless and GTE Mobilty customers all CDMA carriers with a good customer base. To the Wireless savvy like most on the forums here there phones and network policy is enuff to make me either learn real quick to Mod my phones or buy a Sprint plan and force it to roam on Verizon.

    Im old school grew up analog, TDMA and GSM so the random buzzing with slightly noticable sound quatily differences (white noise comparison) between CDMA and GSM doesnt bother. I like that fact the on GSM the tower pushes the same power and has the same coverage area regardless if there is 2 people or 2 thousand people on the tower. Were as CDMA you might have great signal at your house that is exactly 2 miles from the tower but all of a sudden you have a barely usable signal. This is the notorious Cell Breathing or Cell Shrinkage as I like to call it.

    As said before no Carrier is the best but there are a few naive people that have had a bad experience with a carrier and assume it was the technolgy, phone CS or whatever that Pee'd in their Cheerios. I like to refer to these people as Cell Pimps, regardless of what the forum member is looking for the Cell Pimp will push their wares and slander all in their path.

    First and foremost as the forums name states it is Wireless Advisor not My personal wireless forum to force my views on all that can read the English language. Or those like me that are too lazy to use spell check.
     
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    Yes, some parts of Switzerland are hard to cover- I was just there again this past summer and realized that, but fact is that in European countries, carriers need to cover a country that is as big/smaller than a U.S. State. If all that a U.S. carrier had to cover was the State of Utah (for example...harsh terrain and some very remote places as well) they would all cover 98% of the state as well, but it's just not worth it for most carriers, since they have millions of more important square miles to cover.
     
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    This thread is way off topic. My buddy tucked his tail and ran, but I really like the way this thread has gone anyways. It is extremely funny, and very entertaining.

    My bad. I have been in half a dozen forums and I had the spelling police in those forums jump all over me. I guess I unknowingly turned into one of them. :loony:
     
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    Taht's ok, it haapnes ot teh bset of us.

    -Jay
     
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    I agree, this thread is fun, but I'm thinking now we should probably move this thread to the RZ.

    -Jay
     
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    I couldn't agree more with you Jay.

    You'd think some of those marketers have access to this forum.
     
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    so true, but it is rare in this forum. Now HOFO is a different story.
     
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    Which is a kind of WCDMA, With a twist. GSM under it present form will go bye bye too. It will be the same in Name Only as will other CDMA advancements. Everything will change for everyone eventually.

    As to is Verizon the best? Sure in some places. Everyone is the best somewhere.

    To all that observe Christmas (as I do): MERRY CHRISTMAS! And to all: a Happy New Year.
     
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    thats so true, even att, :browani:
     
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    I read that, but based on what I read it had more to do with coorporate relationships than the actual technology itself.

    CDMA requires less spectrum and and power and is much easier to transition for 2G to 3G and so on.

    It's like the battle between Betamax and VHS. Betamax was a better product but VHS won that battle.

    There are definitely more GSM users in the world as the majority of other carriers use this technology. This could be another reason for the change. You know everyone loves their SIM card. But the R-UIM, CDMA's SIM card, is out there just hasn't cought on in US markets yet.
     
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    Yea, I know that LTE (and currently HSPDA) will use code division. It is just more efficient. I think that kashkanantambu was talking about the American CDMA standard, IS95/CDMA2000 (and possibly its evolving to UMB.) No, the GSM carriers will not be switching to that standard.

    Maybe I was wrong. In that case kashkanantambu was right, because the GSM carriers and Verizon will be using the GSM standard of LTE, they will be using code devision. As far as the American CDMA standard evolving to UMB, I have no idea what will happen to it.

    kashkanantambu What were you talking about, code devision in general or the CDMA standard put out by Qualcomm?
     
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    I was talking about the technology put out by Qualcomm (CDMA).

    I was under the impression that LTE is similar to WiMAX and uses FDM or some form of it. Is this true?:confused:
     
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    LTE is basically a 2nd generation of WCDMA that is suppose to be backwards compatible with both UMTS, CDMA and plain ole GSM. Its going to create some interesting roaming scenarios when it comes into play.

    There are no real power benefits of CDMA vs GSM at the site itself. The frequency allocation is a tight match as well. On lower capacity rural sites GSM has the advantage of running at about 200 k of spectrum bare minimum as CDMA has to run on at least one Carrier group that uses alittle over a meg of spectrum. You could run almost 6 GSM radios in a rural environment vs the one Carrier group on CDMA However CDMA is more Spectrum effiecient in a higher capacity aspect until you start to utilize more EVDO which use a dedicated time slot based on the old TDMA standard.

    IMO LTE has been about 10 years late in the making. There should have never been as many incompatible platforms allowed to be put in service at there is. If it were up to me I would have mandated a common Digital standard that all the different technolgies can share when emergency calls are needed. In 2002 I had a Voicestream GSM phone and drove from Seattle to Michigan, when I was in Western Wireless area before their GSM build out I couldnt use the VoiceStream phone for 24 hours until I got to Minnesota. From half way thru Montana to Minnesota no coverage, this is un-acceptable by any standards and falling back on analog is also in my view un-acceptable. You always need a fall back.
     
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    That reminds me of a day trip to Richmond I made with my sister in '01 or '02. She had a VoiceStream phone and all she could talk about was her nationwide no roaming plan. Twenty miles from her house her phone lost service. (Just south of Fredericksburg). When we hit Doswell my phone switched to ROAM. I then was able to say "I may be roaming, but at least I can make a call...: She got rid of that phone soon afterwards.

    -Jay
     
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    Good point Jay. it is whatever works where you need it that is best.
     
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    In almost all technical sense CDMA is more advanced and "better". This is why future wireless evolutions utilize it (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPDA). I don't think anyone can look at the specs and honestly say otherwise. But carriers have strapped it down because of greed and Qualcomm overcharged for royalties on it, especially internationally.

    Verizon is not the best. They are however the most expensive. A lot of people will always think "if it's more expensive, it must be better."
     
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