Verizon Facts

how is it suporior to gsm? the only way i can think of is it has better coverage. To my untrained ear, t-mo (gsm) sounds very slightly better than virgin-sprint (cdma). I am just wondering. I really dont care bout technologlys cuz to me they dont have much diffrence in clarity. (except for tdma)

I dont want to start an argument but I am just cuerious how it is suporior.

Forgive my spelling

 

i believe the 7 second delay with Verizon's PTT will be fixed in the future. Nextel has no dealy with their PTT but they have been doing PTT for nearly 10 years. Maybe they'll fix it later...

 

Already this year Verizon Wireless has built more than 1,000 cell sites, grown the network's capacity by more than 50 percent and engineered countless other service improvements to maintain the nation's largest and most reliable* wireless network. This $4 billion annual investment has extended wireless service to such places as all the major automobile tunnels in New York City; improved coverage along the interchange of interstate highways 580 and 5, and state highway 132 in Northern California; contributed to the launched service in Joplin, Missouri; and the construction of the "ultimate stealth cell site," an exact replica of an architectural design element atop the Disney Celebration Hotel in Orlando, Florida, that doubles as a wireless antenna. The reliability and reach of its network has also provided the foundation for innovative products and services including the nation's fastest large-scale wireless data networks in Washington, D.C., and San Diego.
Recent Network -- Results Drive Innovative Services and Reliability

- Verizon Wireless' network is 100 percent digital, delivering the highest quality voice and data services;




- In the first half of 2003, customers sent and received more than 1 billion billed text messages through Verizon Wireless' network;

- Between September 2002 and June 2003, Verizon Wireless customers downloaded nearly 12 million Get It Now(SM) games, ring tone packages, entertainment applications and more. The rate of downloads has skyrocketed to an average of 4 million downloads a month;

- Picture Messaging, launched in 2003, is an intuitive service that requires just a few easy clicks to take and send a photo. In less than three months since the launch of Verizon Wireless' picture messaging service, customers shared more than 2 million picture messages over the company's nationwide network;

- In 2003, Verizon Wireless launched Push to Talk (PTT) - a walkie-talkie feature that provides a one-button, fast connection between Verizon Wireless PTT users on Verizon Wireless' nationwide wireless network. The company has more than 100,000 subscribers to date;

- BroadbandAccess is Verizon Wireless' 3G network that launched in October 2003 and offers wireless Internet connections at broadband-like speeds averaging 300-500 kilobits per second.

"Verizon Wireless and its employees all share the common goal of pursuing network excellence in order to provide customers with the most reliable and expansive wireless network in the nation and the most satisfying wireless experience," said Denny Strigl, president and CEO of Verizon Wireless.

Who to Call in an Emergency The Verizon Wireless network is built for reliability in emergencies, with emergency power and connections the norm. During blackouts, storms and other such emergency events, it is important that the Verizon Wireless network has redundancies in place and performs well for customers.

Real Life Test Men and Women Since its inception, Verizon Wireless has dedicated significant financial and human resources to improve its network. The company currently deploys a fleet of 60 test vehicles managed by Verizon Wireless engineers who each cover more than 100,000 miles per year to ensure optimum network performance. These real-life test men and women, who inspired the company's national television advertising campaign, continuously test the network and identify areas for improvement. "We will continue to invest in our network to expand capacity and improve performance for voice and data services, and we will not waver from our pursuit of network excellence," said Strigl. "Our network focus will continue to benefit our customers as we continue to introduce industry-leading new services." For more information on Verizon Wireless products and services, visit www.verizonwireless.com.

About Verizon Wireless Verizon Wireless is the nation's leading provider of wireless communications. The company has the largest nationwide wireless voice and data network and 36 million customers. Headquartered in Bedminster, NJ, Verizon Wireless is a joint venture of Verizon Communications (NYSE: VZ) and Vodafone (NYSE: VOD; LSE: VOD). Find more information on the Web at www.verizonwireless.com.

* Reliability is based on network tests that have consistently shown the rate of ineffective attempts for the Verizon Wireless national network is lower than any other national carrier.

 

OK, let's step outside the reality distortion field. . .

CDMA can't come near to 300 calls per channel (each channel is 1.25MHz wide) and there is space for at least 4 two-way channels per licence (licences range from 10MHz to 30MHz).

CDMA can generally handle 15 calls per 1MHz of spectrum. This is the same as GSM.

Sprint's network is actually larger in terms of digital coverage (or so everyone says. I don't know if I believe it or not).

CDMA can't come near 2Mbps in data speeds. Try 80kbps on a good connection.

CDMA can hand-off to analog, but you cannot hand-off from analog to CDMA. That means that if you ever go into analog, you are stuck there for the duration of the call. Of course, Verizon is introducing a lot of CDMA phones that can't do analog so the point is mute for some phones.

No one was right about the LNP predictions and we have no facts on it. If Verizon was doing well, they would have put out a big press release in bold type and made a huge fuss about it.

The only way that CDMA is superior to GSM is that it has more coverage in the US because it has been here longer. GSM even has advantages over CDMA like international roaming, better voice quality, and cheaper phones. CDMA phones generally cost providers (like Verizon) more than 40% more than GSM phones. That means that it costs a lot more for Verizon or Sprint to add a new customer than it costs T-Mobile or Cingular or ATT.

Vodafone would like to grab up some more of Verizon's share so that they will have the majority vote. That way they could change the network to GSM, the wireless technology that holds 72% of the wireless market. Oh, CDMA doesn't have the other 28% because a lot of that is TDMA, analog or other.

Sprint uses the same CDMA standard that Verizon is using and no one else is trying to upgrade to it.

C'mon. These "facts" aren't even close.

 

Actually, CDMA can achieve speeds listed above. It's possible in bursts... The log was speaking of milestones for the company not sustained speeds. It's called EV-DO. It has currently launched in specific markets (San Diego, CA. and Washington D.C. "USA") Sprint plans to offer even faster speeds as it roles out EV-DE later down the road. Sprint PCS is the largest all digital "PCS" carrier in the nation. Verizon Wireless has the largest nationwide footprint in both voice and data overall.

 

And besides, Northform, the guy was looking for report information not a rebuddle from the GSM Union President. We broke away from England a long time ago buddy. CDMA has served the majority of us quite well because it works. Voice quality can be left up to the end-user. Try using your GSM phone in my neigborhood and you'll get your "better voice quality," that is if your call will go through and actually not drop. This wasn't supposed to be a CDMA vs GSM thread but I guess it went there. Sorry Matstars. I hope my info. helped.

 

Yeah so there!!!

Northform wrote~CDMA phones generally cost providers (like Verizon) more than 40% more than GSM phones. That means that it costs a lot more for Verizon or Sprint to add a new customer than it costs T-Mobile or Cingular or ATT.

Maybe true, but Verizon is tops at price per aquisition... meaning they spend less than any other national provider to sign up new customers.. from what I remember T-Mobile is 2nd.

 

Maybe so but then there is also the ARPU to take into consideration as well. It might cost those two less $$ to sign up new customers but how much are those customers spending per month?

 

I think that it is dispicable to say that Verizon can do 2Mbps without explaining that it can only achieve that if it has a 100% clear channel (ie. no one else is connected) and that even then it can only achieve it in bursts and that this network isn't even available generally now. This is a future technology.

GSM's voice quality is superior. You can't question that you CDMA troll.

There is no EV-DE. It's EV-DV and that only offers higher speeds when using 3 times the airspace.

One thing that he should include in his report is that 1xEV-DO works by only allowing data traffic on the channel. Voice traffic has to be segragated. This is a big deal in some ways because it means that the network is optimized for data. The only problem with it is that carriers have to sacrafice air space an entire channel at a time rather than having data users simply squeeze in next to the voice users. This will offer users higher data speeds, but it also offers a challenge for carriers. Of course, Qualcomm doesn't seem to think that this is a good long-term stratagy since they are doing the exact opposite with 1xEV-DV and returning to a system that has voice and data on the same channel. It would be interesting to know what Qualcomm is making such a move. Is this a way for Qualcomm to continue to compete until it can actually come out with something that is faster without having to segragate voice and data? Will they change their minds on EV-DV?

When a person posts such incorrect information, it needs to be corrected. That information wasn't even close. He was looking to check his data and it was soooooooo wrong.

I really resent your England comment you racist a$$ hole! Further, your handle isn't the best and makes me think about what you might do in your free time.

This wasn't a CDMA/GSM fight. I corrected his information. No matter what you say about burst speeds of CDMA 1xEV-DO, it is DEFINITELY not equivalent to a T2. A T2 does 6.3Mbps sustained. 1xEV-DO can't hit that as a burst speed. It can't match up to a T1 either which can provide 1.5Mbps sustained.

If we are going to talk about technologies that aren't out yet, why not talk about wCDMA - the 3G GSM technology. It is fully deployed and commercialized in Japan and ATT has it up in some markets in the USA - not public mind you, but it is there just as 1xEV-DO is.

 

Northform, since you have obviously not only implemented but actually designed wireless internet interfaces for the GSM platform and people like me only read about it; kudos to you; YOU WIN!! No, I'm not racist. I was just highlighting your arrogance when we are both giving out third party information. Let me know what kind of "GSM" you put in your coffee so I can make sure to refrain from it..


Matstars: Search for info. both objectively and lighthearted. Although the web is full of opinions from users, try to focus on highlights and facts as much as possible no matter what anyone here says.

 

Northform,

Please refrain from name calling and attempted use of profanity. Also you seem to be taking the CDMA/GSM debate way too personally. I tried to send you a private e-mail about this but your address is not valid and you don't have private messaging enabled.

 

Again, all that matters in the end is if your phone works where and when you need it too and it does what you need it to, the technology used is really irrelevant to most people, as it should be. NEVER buy based on a technology, buy based on YOUR needs

 

Good call Mike. The whole technology debate is very overrated and getting old. Whatever works best for you is what you should go with.

 

I think if matstars wanted this to be a Verizon Facts thread he should've refrain from stating the 3 things about CDMA that sparked this off-track discussion. Those are not Verizon facts. I am not defending anyone in particular, but I think he obviously screwed up there because we have mad fanatics on both the CDMA and the GSM sides and it is hard to make them both live together in peace.

Nortform, don't forget that this is a discussion forum about cellular technologies and companies. Don't take it so personally. Name calling and negative personal remarks are not tolerated here. What yourdaddy stated does not give you the right to call him names. Try to stay focused on defending your point of view, not your personal pride! The best thing you can do to show him you are not arrogant is to apologize.

You also need to update your email address in your profile and enable private messaging.

 

Verizon's ARPU is around $50, T-Mobile is $54 as of 3Q.

 

Good morning all... this is my fist posting on this site. Appears to be very active and knowledgable. Wonder if anyone could supply me with so links to specific information regarding forecast info as to the below:

Per your Quote: - BroadbandAccess is Verizon Wireless' 3G network that launched in October 2003 and offers wireless Internet connections at broadband-like speeds averaging 300-500 kilobits per second.

The fact is... regardless of the carrier; there are roughly 150,000 cell-sites across the US currently. From this, pick a market..... let's say Chicagoland. Hypothetically, let's say a single carrier currently has 500+ sites covering Chicagoland MSA. Once the carrier 'TRUELY' is capable of offering "BROADBAND SERVICES"... they will need to deploy an additional 300-500 sites to provide the exact same coverage footprint as their current system (true or false)?

Once the carrier deploys their initial overlay of 2.5 - 3G equipment, their service area (per cell site) will be deminished by approximately 1/2 the range. These holes will have to be filled in over the years to come.

I'm looking for forecast information regarding this fill in time frame... Any ideas?

thanks

 

Wow that's low for Verizon. I think Sprint is at $62 or $63 last I remember.

 

Verizon has had very low ARPU's for quite some time now I think.

 

They make up for it with the amount of customers they have acquired.