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Using T-Mobile GSM now

Discussion in 'Western US Wireless Forum' started by Kaosinla, Jan 23, 2003.

  1. Kaosinla

    Kaosinla New Member

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    I posted earlier about getting an nokia 8890 on T-Mobile. I have very little to no reception anywhere in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, or W. Los Angeles. The store said that ATT did something with their towers which is disturbing Tmobile/Cingular GSM reception. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm 2 days into the contract. The store called in a service issue to TMobile, but I'm wondering if it's B.S. because they might get a higher commission from a Tmobile sale. I know I have a 14 day free look, but I don't want to wait forever. How is ATT GSM? My phone is a $400 paper weight right now....
     
  2. gsaldivar

    gsaldivar New Member

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    Go to any T-Mobile retail store and arrange for a loaner phone (it's free).

    Take the SIM card out of your 8890, put it in the loaner and use it for a few days. See if you notice a difference.

    This can help rule out the phone as being the cause of the problem.
     
  3. northform

    northform Bronze Senior Member
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    There is nothing that ATT (or any carrier) can do to disrupt any other providers' signals.
     
  4. ZaphodB

    ZaphodB Signal Go Down De Hole...
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    Not quite true. When AT&T first switched on their GSM here in Los Angeles, some of the T-Mobile phones (most notably the Samsung R225, which is Not Known for its wonderful ability to accept OTA updates) would switch to "Emergency Only" if there was a stronger AT&T signal than a Cingular signal. Supposedly it was something about AT&T not rejecting the T-Mobile users.

    That's long since been cleared up, though, and it sounds like a convenient excuse.

    That said, I have T-Mobile and while there are small parts of West L.A. and a large chunk of Beverly Hills where there is no coverage, I used to live in Santa Monica and my phone worked fine everywhere except in the garage of my building.
     
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  5. northform

    northform Bronze Senior Member
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    Still, that's not effecting the other signals. They don't opperate outside of their licenced spectrum. That was merely a problem of the phones using towers that they weren't supposed to roam on to.
     
  6. budney

    budney Resident Headbanger
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    If you baught the phone directly through T-Mobile, it may be true. But if you bought it from a authorized agent or dealer, its more than likely BS. I tried T-Mobile for a while. I purchase two phone to see which one I liked better. I took one back within the trial period. I asked the agent/dealer if there was anything I needed to do, they said "They will take care of everything". When I received my first bill the second line was still active. T-Mobile told me that I had to cancel the service myself, suprise. But they told me that I would not be billed the $200 fee for cancelling the line. My second bill had the cancelation fee along with more airtime billed to the second line. I called customer service again, they took the cancelation fee off. But when I asked about the airtime they told me since the phone was not purchased directly through them they could not prove the phone was returned. And the agent/dealer gave me the run aroundabout the return, and to this day I have not received the refund for the phone. I then canceled my other line of serivce with T-Mobile & paid the fee to get rid of them for good. Just make sure you go through the provider directly. I have never had any problems going direct, but its a different story going through agents/dealers. Hope this long reply helps you in some way.
     
  7. CaliphoniaBoy

    CaliphoniaBoy Senior Member
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    If you have no signal the ATT excuse is simply BS. Don;t trust the dealer, give the phone back. If your phone locks in "emergency only" and you can switch it off and back on then it's a phone issue.

    However, as Zaphod said, the ATT problems have been resolved quiet some time ago. So again, I think the dealer is bs-ing.

    C.
     
  8. DCinSEA

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    Well, it is not legal to disrupt signal, but it CAN be done. Jammers exist, but they are outlawed in the US (except for law enforcement and military, of course!)

    Nextel caused AT&T a lot of trouble when they started up, because iDen uses a hybrid of TDMA. AT&T had to install Nextel filters on all their cell sites.

    Also, there is a saturation point for RF, and when that happens the signals do interfere with one another. It is hard to do, but we have seen it a little here in the Seattle area where we have 2 Cellular carriers, 5 PCS carriers, plus Nextel. Only the Nextwave C Block of PCS is not currently in use here.


    Yes, and the dealer is wrong. Take the phone back. You should get signal in most areas, unless you live in a cave and commute to hell for work!
     
  9. Jocko

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    I have been using a Samsung R225 since last July. Overall there have been no problems with the phone and I've found the RF performance to be fine, equal to a friends V66.
    The problem with AT&T and the phone going Emergency Only has not been resolved here (South Inland Empire) as that still hapeens quite frequently though.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     

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