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  1. M in LA

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    Just read on the California Public Utilities Commission website about the approval of 2 more area codes in Southern California. This brings SoCal's total to 19 area codes. :loony:

    The CPUC approved an overlay of Area Code 818 (San Fernando Valley) with Area Code 747. This will formally begin next year.

    They also announced Area Code 760 will be split, with only the San Diego County portion moving to the new 442 code. The sparsely populated desert areas (like El Centro, Palm Springs, and Death Valley) will remain 760. The transition phase of the split should begin later this year, with the formal split occurring in 2009.

    Both come on the heels of the addition of overlay 657 to Area Code 714 in northern Orange County, which is already in progress.

    So this is how it looks:

    Greater Los Angeles (16) - 213, 310, 323, 424, 562, 626, 657, 661, 714, 747, 760, 805, 818, 909, 949, 951.

    San Diego County (3) - 442, 619, 858

    The biggest irony is the fact that ALL of these area codes are descendants of 213, once the only area code in SoCal, back when area codes were first created (in 1947).

    I'll say one thing, life is never boring in Souhern California...:rolleyes:
     
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    Hence the main reason I always put the area code in my cell phone, it's now a world of 10 digit dialing! The worst was when they started issuing the 888 prefix locally. If I forget to dial 1 before dialing an 888 toll free it will go to someone's house.
     
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  3. M in LA

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    I can't remember the last time I dialed just 7 digits. I've moved around several times over the past decade and have never changed my original cell number (310) since I got it in 1994. I have a Vonage number in (212), so 11-digit dialing is all I know. Even my T-Mobile and AT&T numbers are in different area codes (213 and 818). I dial 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx for every number now, even if it happens to be in the same area code as the number I'm calling from. I've gotten used to it.

    One thing I'm happy about is the fact that my 310 and 818 numbers are safe, thanks to overlays. Otherwise they would have changed if there had been a geographical area code split instead of an overlay.
     
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    most all my numbers are 7 acouple are 10 digits but never 11.
     
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    In this reference, 11 digit and 10 digit dialing are the same. He's just referring to adding 1+the number.


    Yeah, I'm glad my 818 numbers are safe, I don't mind overlays but the splits are a pain!
     
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    Yeah I heard the '213' code is now limited to just 3 buildings in downtown LA. ;) What a shame.
     
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    ive never added a 1 whenever using a cell phone. but when i use a landline i do. we used to be able to use 4 numbers when in the same prefix i think thats what its called. but no more.

    one proublum with using 7 is when you travel to another area the number is in that area. the first time that happened i was like what the heck.
     
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    I know with VoIP, SunRocket was giving out '213' numbers.
    Maybe Vonage does it too...?
     
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    Larry was joking. 213 numbers are readily available with cell carriers and VoIP providers as well. He was just referring to the small geographic footprint the code now has compared to what it used to be. It only covers Downtown L.A., which isn't a shoe box, but it also isn't huge either.

    213 used to be the "it" code among the trendy set in L.A., now it's a shadow of it's former self, thanks to a ton of splits over the years. What hasn't and won't change is the fact that 213 is the patriarch code for all in Southern California. From it's genesis is where all other codes were born...

    213's child 310 is apparently the "it" code now...:rolleyes:
     
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    I know 3 people in CA with a total of 6 area codes

    All with numbers from area codes:

    310, 661, 949 (So Cal.)
    Along with 415, 650 & 831 (Bay Area)

    2 people I know in the Bay Area have S. Cal cellphones.
     
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    yea cali just has way to many people, there are still states with only 1 area code. i remember when they split alabama years ago, and it was like a huge deal, even as a little kid i remember that oddly.
     
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    I'm a newcomer to USA and it annoys the hell out of me when people from Florida or somewhere else give me a number without area code.. i guess now i know why.. but it still annoys me.
     
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    They probably forget they're not in their local calling area...You would think they'd know this, especially if they're out of state.
     
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    I remember only 20 years ago, when all of NJ was 201, and most all of NYC was 212.

    When I lived in NJ, we got bumped from 201 to 609 to 908 to 732 over 15 years without even going anywhere.
     
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    Yeah, it's like that in some areas here. Some parts have changed 4 to 5 times. It's getting ridiculous, but unfortunately, it's a sign of the times. Technology in the modern age...:rolleyes:
     
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    and at this rate, we'll be out of numbers and area codes even sooner.

    Now 201, which used to cover all of NJ, is entirely overlaid with 551,
    and only covers most of 2 counties (Hudson, Bergen),
    Hudson county being one of the smallest counties in the country.
     
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    i think they are about to have to change/add to ATL soon. for the longest they have only need 404/678/770 but next year i believe they are adding 1 or 2 new ones.

    GA believe it or not, though very rural, actually has alot of area codes, i can name most but not all of them.

    in comparison to states like AL/MS/LA which use only 2-3 area codes for the whole state, its alot.
     
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    With the introduction of the new 442 area code in San Diego County, the people in the affected area are changed for the fourth time and it will be their fifth different code in the 62 years since area codes were established :

    213 (1947-1951) > 714 (1951-1982) > 619 (1982-1997) > 760 (1997-2009) > 442 (2009 on).

    I wonder how long 442 will last...
     
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    The Chicago area is getting more area codes....more overlays are waiting in queue....

    312 Chicago - City (The Loop and central neighborhoods, e.g. the Near North Side)
    773 Chicago - City (Everywhere else within the city limits, excluding central area)
    847/224 (North and Northwest Suburbs)
    630/331 (Western Suburbs)
    708 (Near West and South Suburbs)
    815/779 (Far Northwest/Southwest Suburbs; Joliet, DeKalb, Rockford)
    219 (Northwest Indiana)
    574 (North-central Indiana)
    262 (Southeast Wisconsin surrounding Milwaukee County)

    Proposed overlay area codes
    464 overlay for 708 (no effective date)
    872 overlay for 312 & 773 (no effective date)
     
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    They assigned area code 470 to the metro Atlanta area a few years back but I don't think they started giving those out yet. 762 was overlaid on 706 last year, bringing 10 digit dialing to all of north Georgia. In the South, its just 229, 478, and 912...in Florida, the newest code is 239 I think...
     
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    When I was a kid they split the western half of Virginia off 703 and changed it to 540. What a pain that was...
     
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    Quint, were you living in No. Fla. when 850 split from 904?

    It's interesting to note that all of Florida used to be 305. So all current area codes in Florida are descendants of 305, which now only covers Miami-Dade county and the Keys. Of course it shares Miami-Dade with overlay 786 now.

    Florida's had some convoluted and bizarre area code switches over the years, like the non-contiguous 386 code and the odd 407/321 overlay in Orlando, with only 321 in Brevard County.

    And by the way whose brilliant idea (the one who decides which area code number an area will get) was it to place overlay code 754 with Broward County's 954??? How much more similar do the numbers have to be? Weird...
     
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    Yep, Chicagoland is beginning to look like SoCal too. ;)
     
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    At work, our phones are configured not to allow "extra" 10D or 11D dialing. So in my Orange County office, if I want to call a local number, it has to be seven digits (765-1900 for the Anaheim police, for example), and in Burbank the same story.

    I've had my 310 number for a very long time, and I'm glad -- I had to call CAA the other day and they have a 424 number, which really threw me. I knew eventually that would start, but I'd never actually heard of anyone, much less a major business (CAA is a major talent agency) having a 424 number.

    I'm told we're going to have our Orange County area code overlaid with 657. I already dial everything 11D anyway, and it's a better solution than a split (does Disneyland get the 714? Or Huntington Beach?)

    Things will continue on. And no matter how long the 951 area code sticks around, everyone in Orange County knows they're 909ers. :)
     
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    I wasn't in Florida when 850 was assigned. I heard that the locals were disappointed because they couldn't keep the 904 area code. I was too busy getting used to 10D dialing for all calls... Then I had to relearn 7D dialing when I got to Florida... And I soon learned that the whole area code is not local from landlines.
     
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    yea i remember being 904 in West FL and they took it away and went to 850. that was about 95-96 If i recall correctly. i was still young admitedly.
     
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    That weirds me out when I go outside of my little area. The only place in the 714 that is a toll call for me is Silverado -- and honestly, who calls Silverado??

    I'm used to being able to dial four or five area codes for free or as good as free.
     
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    Let's not forget that ONE city, DeBary, which had its area code from 407 to 386 when the 321 area code was introduced. Now, the city and all of Volusia county are under one area code lol

    The 754/954 thing reminds me of the 404/470/678/770 thing in Atlanta. I suppose that 470 could be a hybrid of 770 and 404 but they should have come up with another code :rolleyes:
     
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    Whoever assigns the numbers apparently doesn't look at the codes already existing in a particular area. The North Georgia and Broward county anomalies are but two examples of some of the idiocy of code assignments.

    South Carolina is another one with all 3 of their codes beginning with "8". Central S. Carolina kept the original 803 code, but the eastern half got 843, and the western area got 864. How is that for confusing??? Plus the western part of North Carolina, bordering S. Carolina, is 828!!! Next to 828 to the north is 865 serving Knoxville, Tennessee! How many more freakin' 8 codes can you have next to each other? Ridiculous.:rolleyes:

    Oh well, that's life (or red tape)...
     
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    I remember those days too. Having been born and raised in the Los Angeles area, I've seen it all.

    I remember when it was just 213, 714, and 805. Then came 619 (which separated Orange County from San Diego). 818 followed a few years later. Once the 1990s arrived, all area code hell broke out and its been insanity since.

    Now all you have to do is go 20 to 30 miles, in any direction, and you're in a different code.

    This is what it is here now in Greater Los Angeles (and a little beyond):

    213 - Central Downtown Los Angeles
    310 - Malibu, Beverly Hills, LAX, San Pedro/L.A. Harbor
    323 - Los Angeles (Hollywood, Mid-Wilshire, Eagle Rock), Montebello, Watts
    424 - Overlay of 310
    562 - Long Beach, Downey, Whittier, Seal Beach, Cerritos
    626 - San Gabriel Valley (Pasadena, West Covina, Alhambra, Arcadia, Glendora, City of Industry)
    657 - Overlay of 714 (Implementation in progress)
    661 - Santa Clarita, Lancaster, The Grapevine, Bakersfield
    714 - Northern Orange County (Anaheim, Brea, Huntington Beach, Orange, part of Santa Ana)
    747 - Overlay of 818 (Implementation in 2009)
    760 - Victorville, Barstow, Palm Springs, El Centro, Blythe, Needles, Death Valley
    805 - Ventura County (Thousand Oaks, Simi Valley, Ventura, Oxnard), Santa Barbara
    818 - San Fernando Valley (Encino, Northridge, Sherman Oaks, North Hollywood), Burbank, Glendale, La Canada-Flintridge
    909 - SW San Bernardino County (San Bernardino, Ontario, Redlands, Fontana, Rancho Cucamonga, Big Bear Lake, Lake Arrowhead), Pomona
    949 - Southern Orange County (Newport Beach, Laguna Niguel, San Clemente, Mission Viejo, San Juan Capistrano)
    951 - Western Riverside County (Riverside, Temecula, Corona, Murrietta, Banning, Beaumont, Hemet, March AFB)

    San Diego has what's left of 619, plus 858, and the soon to be implemented 442 (currently 760).
     
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