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The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed

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  1. bobolito

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    October 6th, 2008
    The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed
    Posted by Jason Hiner @ 4:21 am


    On Friday, Microsoft gave computer makers a six-month extension for offering Windows XP on newly-shipped PCs. While this doesn’t impact enterprise IT — because volume licensing agreements will allow IT to keep installing Windows XP for many years to come — the move is another symbolic nail in Vista’s coffin.

    The public reputation of Windows Vista is in shambles, as Microsoft itself tacitly acknowledged in its Mojave ad campaign.

    IT departments are largely ignoring Vista. In June (18 months after Vista’s launch), Forrester Research reported that just 8.8% of enterprise PCs worldwide were running Vista. Meanwhile, Microsoft appears to have put Windows 7 on an accelerated schedule that could see it released in 2010. That will provide IT departments with all the justification they need to simply skip Vista and wait to eventually standardize on Windows 7 as the next OS for business.

    So how did Vista get left holding the bag? Let’s look at the five most important reasons why Vista failed.

    5. Apple successfully demonized Vista
    Apple’s clever I’m a Mac ads have successfully driven home the perception that Windows Vista is buggy, boring, and difficult to use. After taking two years of merciless pummeling from Apple, Microsoft recently responded with it’s I’m a PC campaign in order to defend the honor of Windows. This will likely restore some mojo to the PC and Windows brands overall, but it’s too late to save Vista’s perception as a dud.

    4. Windows XP is too entrenched
    In 2001, when Windows XP was released, there were about 600 million computers in use worldwide. Over 80% of them were running Windows but it was split between two code bases: Windows 95/98 (65%) and Windows NT/2000 (26%), according to IDC. One of the big goals of Windows XP was to unite the Windows 9x and Windows NT code bases, and it eventually accomplished that.

    In 2008, there are now over 1.1 billion PCs in use worldwide and over 70% of them are running Windows XP. That means almost 800 million computers are running XP, which makes it the most widely installed operating system of all time. That’s a lot of inertia to overcome, especially for IT departments that have consolidated their deployments and applications around Windows XP.

    And, believe it or not, Windows XP could actually increase its market share over the next couple years. How? Low-cost netbooks and nettops are going to be flooding the market. While these inexpensive machines are powerful enough to provide a solid Internet experience for most users, they don’t have enough resources to run Windows Vista, so they all run either Windows XP or Linux. Intel expects this market to explode in the years ahead. (For more on netbooks and nettops, see this fact sheet and this presentation — both are PDFs from Intel.)

    3. Vista is too slow
    For years Microsoft has been criticized by developers and IT professionals for “software bloat” — adding so many changes and features to its programs that the code gets huge and unwieldy. However, this never seemed to have enough of an effect to impact software sales. With Windows Vista, software bloat appears to have finally caught up with Microsoft.

    Vista has over 50 million lines of code. XP had 35 million when it was released, and since then it has grown to about 40 million. This software bloat has had the effect of slowing down Windows Vista, especially when it’s running on anything but the latest and fastest hardware. Even then, the latest version of Windows XP soundly outperforms the latest version of Microsoft Vista. No one wants to use a new computer that is slower than their old one.

    2. There wasn’t supposed to be a Vista
    It’s easy to forget that when Microsoft launched Windows XP it was actually trying to change its OS business model to move away from shrink-wrapped software and convert customers to software subscribers. That’s why it abandoned the naming convention of Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows 2000, and instead chose Windows XP.

    The XP stood for “experience” and was part of Microsoft’s .NET Web services strategy at the time. The master plan was to get users and businesses to pay a yearly subscription fee for the Windows experience — XP would essentially be the on-going product name but would include all software upgrades and updates, as long as you paid for your subscription. Of course, it would disable Windows on your PC if you didn’t pay. That’s why product activation was coupled with Windows XP.

    Microsoft released Windows XP and Office XP simultaneously in 2001 and both included product activation and the plan to eventually migrate to subscription products. However, by the end of 2001 Microsoft had already abandoned the subscription concept with Office, and quickly returned to the shrink-wrapped business model and the old product development model with both products.

    The idea of doing incremental releases and upgrades of its software — rather than a major shrink-wrapped release every 3-5 years — was a good concept. Microsoft just couldn’t figure out how to make the business model work, but instead of figuring out how to get it right, it took the easy route and went back to an old model that was simply not very well suited to the economic and technical realities of today’s IT world.

    1. It broke too much stuff
    One of the big reasons that Windows XP caught on was because it had the hardware, software, and driver compatibility of the Windows 9x line plus the stability and industrial strength of the Windows NT line. The compatibility issue was huge. Having a single, highly-compatible Windows platform simplified the computing experience for users, IT departments, and software and hardware vendors.

    Microsoft either forgot or disregarded that fact when it released Windows Vista, because, despite a long beta period, a lot of existing software and hardware were not compatible with Vista when it was released in January 2007. Since many important programs and peripherals were unusable in Vista, that made it impossible for a lot of IT departments to adopt it. Many of the incompatibilities were the result of tighter security.

    After Windows was targeted by a nasty string of viruses, worms, and malware in the early 2000s, Microsoft embarked on the Trustworthy Computing initiative to make its products more secure. One of the results was Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), which won over IT and paved the way for XP to become the world’s mostly widely deployed OS.

    The other big piece of Trustworthy Computing was the even-further-locked-down version of Windows that Microsoft released in Vista. This was definitely the most secure OS that Microsoft had ever released but the price was user-hostile features such as UAC, a far more complicated set of security prompts that accompanied many basic tasks, and a host of software incompatibility issues. In order words, Vista broke a lot of the things that users were used to doing in XP.

    Bottom line
    There are some who argue that Vista is actually more widely adopted than XP was at this stage after its release, and that it’s highly likely that Vista will eventually replace XP in the enterprise. I don’t agree. With XP, there were clear motivations to migrate: bring Windows 9x machines to a more stable and secure OS and bring Windows NT/2000 machines to an OS with much better hardware and software compatibility. And, you also had the advantage of consolidating all of those machines on a single OS in order to simplify support.

    With Vista, there are simply no major incentives for IT to use it over XP. Security isn’t even that big of an issue because XP SP2 (and above) are solid and most IT departments have it locked down quite well. As I wrote in the article Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and change its OS business, Microsoft needs to abandon the strategy of releasing a new OS every 3-5 years and simply stick with a single version of Windows and release updates, patches, and new features on a regular basis. Most IT departments are essentially already on a subscription model with Microsoft so the business strategy is already in place there.

    As far as the subscription model goes for small businesses and consumers, instead of disabling Windows on a user’s PC if they don’t renew their subscription, just don’t allow that machine to get any more updates if they don’t renew. Microsoft could also work with OEMs to sell something like a three-year subscription to Windows with every a new PC. Then users would have the choice of renewing on their own after that.

    The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com
     
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    I've gotten used to Vista, but the thing that bothered me the most was trying to share printers and files on the local network with XP machines. It took me months to get that to work right.


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    I may never get to use Vista in my computers. I guess I am not missing anything.
     
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    I may try putting XP Professional on my laptop as an alternate OS and try some benchmarks and see exactly how much difference there is.

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    I'm quite happy with my 4 year old Dell Inspiron 8600 XP Professional laptop. I update software as much as necessary and this thing works as good now as it did when I got it.

    The last thing I want to deal with is compatibility issues with Vista, which apparently still exist. XP has worked very well for me, and if I was to upgrade to a new laptop, it probably would be a Mac.
     
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    I've been using Vista for around a month, I changed all the settings back to XP like settings. I don't like a lot of features that were made with it and just seem useless. Like Aero, its a cool feature, but processor and memory intensive.
     
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    That's a given. I use "windows classic settings" on Windows XP as well.

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    My old desktop (replaced with an iMac) shipped with Vista, and I promptly installed XP on it. Now my GF is using that tower.

    My laptop runs Vista and I have never had any problems, but that is to be expected with a self-contained unit. Like Jay mentioned, setting up printer sharing between a Vista and XP machine is a nightmare. Thank goodness for Google as it provided a solution for the problem in minutes after I had spent days trying to figure it out on my own.
     
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    I've been using Vista for almost a year now and have never any problems with it. XP worked well when I had my last computer but I don't see how Vista is slower than XP was. They are about the same from my experience but since I always like to have the latest I would never go back to XP.

    In my opinion people should upgrade their computers about every 3-4 years (which is what I do) as technology changes a lot. Any computer you buy today is likely going to have Vista. So as more and more people start to upgrade and get a new computer I believe Vista will become more and more popular.
     
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    I agree. I would not be using Vista if I didn't have a new laptop. I have an uncle that ruined god knows how many computers trying to have the latest OS. Then he'd end up with stuff that didn't work because he could not find drivers for the new OS. I don't know how he did it but he'd invariably have these systems so trashed that even if you tried to format the hard drive and put it back the way it was it still would not work. Then he'd go out to Circuit City and spend another $2,000 on a new computer.

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    I once ruined a computer trying to put too many layers on. I think it was windows 95, then 98 and then ME. LOL Learned my lesson.
     
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    Sounds like my second desktop. I bought a Pentium III 450mhz processor and a motherboard the week they were released. I took the remaining parts out of my old Pentium 100. I started with Windows 95 on it. Over the years I upgraded the hard drives, memory, sound and video. I went from Win 95, Win 98, Win 98 SE, Win ME. Somewhere along the way I got tired of overclocking the P3 so I put in a Celleron 1,000 and overclocked it to 1,500. Then the RAID array went in. I used that system for about 8 years before I gave up on it. The hard drive crashed and I didn't feel like messing with that system anymore.

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    Those were the days when it made sense to keep an upgrade a PC for 5+ years because the pricing back then was like 2 grand for an average computer. Now that you can get a nice computer for only $500 it makes more sense to just keep it for a couple of years and then buy a new one. If you factor in inflation in the last 10 or 12 years it makes today's prices an even better deal. $2,000 10 or 12 years ago is like $3,000 today. So if prices on PC's had remained the same as well as gone up at the normal inflation rate we would be paying the equivalent of like 3 grand for a PC today.
     
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    And I just paid $700 for this Dell laptop a few months ago... Its not top of the line, but its not the base model either.
     
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    I find its still easier to just build your computer. You have control over what parts go in, and prices for just about everything are so cheap online. I guess Vista isn't doing as well as MS would of liked because they extened their downgrade deadline to July 31, 2009. Windows XP downgrade deadline extended to July 31, 2009 - Engadget I hate Vista, I wouldn't doubt its hard to write programs for and very little programs or hardware are still compatible with Vista.
     
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    I have yet to own a laptop. I'm glad I didn't get one a few years ago when they were around $1,000. Now I can get a good one for $600-$700 with much better features and specs.
     
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    About a month and a half to two months ago I purchased a new laptop that included Windows Vista Home Premium SP1. I have to admit I really was skeptical about going back to Windows especially Vista which I heard NOTHING but bad things about. However I have to say Vista has been pretty good and I've had no real issues with it. I still prefer a Mac and I wanted another Mac but I just couldn't afford a new Mac and my 3+ year old iBook just wasn't cutting it anymore. I think SP1 fixed a lot of issues with Vista and overall I'm happy with the purchase that I made.

    Here is the laptop that I purchased, I paid $599.99 for it which was a sale price but apparently Best Buy as of today's posting has it for $549.99! It's really a nice computer and either price for what you get on it is a good deal.

    Dell - Inspiron Laptop with Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T5750 - Jet Black - I1525-122B
     
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    That's very similar to the specs of my laptop. The price was changing every week, and the weeks it was under $750 Best Buy was constantly sold out. One week I checked their website, and it was $699. I started plugging in zip codes to find one. I finally found one in a Best Buy about 30 miles from my dad's house. I called him early on a Saturday morning and asked him to be there when the store opened and buy it. The store only had one... :) The only difference I can see (and its hard to tell because they don't have many pics, and the descriptions never say) is that it appears (from the pictures) that your system has the 6 cell battery and mine has the 9 cell battery. The 6 cell is flush with the back of the computer, the 9 cell sticks out about an inch from the rear.

    Mine is a Dell Inspiron 1525 "Special Edition" whatever that means. The only thing I upgraded was that the system did not come with Bluetooth. I added the Dell internal bluetooth card for $20

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    That is a great deal. Thanks for pointing that out. My brother is in the market for one and this might be the one to get.
     
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    I thought it was a good deal at $599.99 but for what you get it's a steal at $549.99. When I bought mine at $599.99 I had to do so online because it was sold out at both my local Best Buy stores.
     
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    Mine was always out of stock online when it was on sale for a good price. When it was $800 you could buy it online. I had to send dad to buy it, and I only found one in the entire DC area.

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    It appears to be sold out again.
     
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    Have fun with your new toy Larry.

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    i don't have any problem with Vista, but I have never been into computers. I jut use windows and know enough to get around!
     
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    I bought a brand new desktop computer a little over a month ago and it came with windows vista.I hated it because it was so slow and kept freezing on me.As soon as I took it off and put XP on it...it was good as new and I have been happy ever since...:O
     
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    I bought a HP Pavilion dv2700 laptop that shipped with vista and haven't experience any problems with it. my internet is slow as i don't know what, but I blame that on my ISP.

    i've thought about going back to XP, but I can't find the old restore disc that came with my first laptop to load it up. What I can't believe is that XP is nearing ten years old... (well, 8) and it still works great.
     
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    I've been toying with the idea of installing XP on top of Vista, and choosing which OS to load from the boot menu, but I haven't done it yet.

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    It can be a PITA to do this with a factory installed (OEM) version of Vista. Installing XP will render the Vista partition unusable, since Vista came after XP and the XP bootloader has no clue what Vista is. Therefore, you will need to re-install Vista after installing XP.

    At least that was the case about a year ago. People may have created a simpler workaround since then.
     
    #30 AnthroMatt, Oct 27, 2008
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