T-Mobile USA, Leap move closer to AWS launches

T-Mobile is far behind the game for data.

 

Las Vegas has the best wireless coverage out of anywhere in the US. I hope Leap can get the necessary cell sites approved to compete with the other carriers (who have saturated the market with indoor coverage and have a 10+ year head start).

 

Agreed- coverage in Las Vegas has been flawless everywhere I have been to, whether it's the busy strip areas or rural residential areas.

 

yeah of course from the looks of it T-Mo is skipping over adding EDGE in some areas and going right to 3G........behind the game......no kidding.........but it looks like they are crossing the 4 stone creek on 3 stones...........w/e

 

And this surprises you because????

 

I think they are behind the game on this, due to the fact of some of this spectrum isn't available for them to use yet.

Las Vegas may have already cleared the spectrum with their surveillance equipement that the local, county & fed goverments were using. That's why they are getting closer here vs other parts of the country.

 

T-Mobile's being behind is no secret and the reason for it may not be to the general public, but companies like Sprint and AT&T are spectrum rich (which is why all the MVNO's use one or th e other.) T-Mobile on the other hand is spectrum poor or at least they are now until spectrum is vacated by current spectrum occupants. It also makes a difference that both Verizon and AT&T have big companies that have land line businesses to prop them up as well. Verizon and AT&T also have a 13 year lead on T-Mobile in the wirless bidness. Sprint would likely be about the same size as T-Mobile were it not for the fact that they combined with Nextel.

 

Yeah but you could say the same thing about Verizon and AT&T as well. How many mergers did they combine to become what they are today?

 

a very good point larry..........Cingular Wireless and AT&T Wireless by themselves were small companies but together plus all the mergers between AT&T, SBC, and BellSouth.......that only makes AT&T Wireless more formidable...........Verizon has 40% Vodafone behind them....

 

Oh no surprise here just a true statement.

 

As far as vegas goes yeah wonderful service so many roof top towers lol.

 

Voda has 45%.

 

And after a while there's nobody left to merge with so you have to go it on your own merits. T-Mobile is in process of absorbing SunCom, but that's peanuts compared to what's gone down with SBC/BS/AT&T, Sprint/Nextel, NYNEX/BA/GTE/Verizon.

 

yeah it is........there are a lot of regional carriers on the east coast........this is mostly because when big companies put in towers they are hesitant to put them in too close to beaches where they can be easliy damaged from storms and such.........this is where regional carriers come in..........

 

And you know this because?.... That's a new reason for other carriers!

 

well think about it........i have been too about 4-5 beaches all along the Eastern Coast............and at all of them even the outdoor coverage was like one bar.........hurricanes really do represent a risk to companies because it can become too expensive to constantly rebuild towers.......especially when they have the whole nation to worry about..........the litle companies can focus their power better which is why we have IMMIX and SunCom and etc.

 

So, from *your* visit to "4 or 5" beaches you know that this is the case. You are party to what the mobile carriers do or don't do. Is that what you're saying or you're just making your own conclusions? You have yet to disclose where you got this information from. As far as I can see it's all just your supposition that this is so. And which carriers build towers on beaches?

 

Some of the beaches in NJ have these coverage issues, especially with T-mobile from what I've heard.

However, there are some places do have towers right near the beach.

Here's one that I took in Folly Beach, SC right near Charleston back on June 17 2007.
It's in an area prone to hurricanes, and earthquakes. About 900 feet from the beach.

It's also in the SC gallery:
http://gallery.wirelessadvisor.com/showimage.php?i=4164&c=44

 

Woah buddy chill......it is a supposition......but it is a very good supposition........and when I mean the beach I mean the beach areas..........hurricanes and storms dont stick to the beaches.......they do come inland...........the idea is that constantly having to fix these towers can become a hassle when you have other things to worry about..........and of course I don't represent any companies.......and I don't have info on it...........whats the point in discuccing something when you already have all the information.........when I went down there.......my mom with her Nokia 6010 T-Mobile had one bar everywhere outside for miles around..........no more than 3 bars no matter where we went.......even as we moved farther inland from the beach areas........my Uncle with AT&T had sucky coverage too.......not sure about Verizon but SPrint had virtually no service in Williamsburg, VA.............they roamed on Alltel the whole time and even that wasnt more than 4 bars

 

Yes beaches are tough sometimes because there's typically no place to put up a tower.

 

another good point........there is beach........then beach houses.......then shopping districts or what not..........

 

There's lots of open land. Why would it be tough to build a tower? Some beaches have tall hotel buildings right in front of them. Perfect place for cell panels.

 

That's what came to my mind right away, that's where i usually see panels installed, atop hotel buildings and even one that look like a palm tree to make it blend in to it's surroundings.

 

You just don't see many cell sites along the beaches here in Orange County. I think the cities have strict zoning regulations and the CA Costal Commission makes it difficult to develop sites along some stretches in CA. However most carriers have found ways to provide decent service along most of the beaches.

 

there werent many in the Outer Banks.........Corolla or Nags Head and cell reception was pretty bad at Topsail, NC...........it was also iffy at Stone Harbor, NJ and def bad at Sea Isle City, NJ

 

NIMBYism still a problem there as well. My family vacations in Sea Isle (NJ) each year- T-Mobile has one cell site on top of the water tower in the center of tow. Coverage sucks in the lower half of the town. TM has now upgraded their cell site to provide better coverage through the town (I've seen the map but it hasn't hit the compass site yet) but still just once cell site...

 

oh well we should go there again cuz my sisters friends parents own a beach house down there that we borrow on the off season cuz the go down there during the summer

 

They were all over at Myrtle Beach SC when I was there & there are panels on almost every casino in AC & a bunch in Wildwood. Seaside has a few but it's been a while since I have been there.