I am just wondering... If I call (from New York) my friend who is at the moment in Pennslyvania, will roaming charges apply? I heard that most T-Mobile family plans also offer Nationwide Digital Roaming which allows to make or receive calls without in expensive roaming charges anywhere in the United States as long as the caller and receiver are both on the T-Mobile National Coverage network. Can someone please explain this to me?
T-Mobile does not have roaming charges in the US. Assuming you are in the US, if you can make a call (whether you are on the TM network or not), and you are calling a number in the US, you won't be charged roaming, assuming you are on a national plan (all family plans are national).
they only possible thing that could go against you would be if you really are roaming and half of your calls in a 3 month billing cycle or off network then t-mobile will turn off your roaming....but if the banner on your phone says tmobile then your fine
I've never heard of T-Mobile having a 50% roaming rule...do you have the contract clause handy that states this???
i could be mistaken....and now that i think about it tmobile would be lost if they limited their roaming because they depend on it
You could say that about every carrier depending on where you are! Most T-Mobile customers I know never roam, period. They stay close to home or along the interstates and are just fine.
when we were considering tmobile we were assured by several salespeople that we could pretty much roam as much as we wanted. this is very important in the area where i live because tmobile only has coverage in half of the city that i live in, the other half they rely on 850mHz roaming on Centennial Wireless.
thank god for 850 roaming.....i know that i work in a very rural area during the summer and i roam on Immix Wireless which is a local provider and they really help and when i go places like to the beach......i would be dead without roaming......but compare T-Mobile's prepaid map to their postpaid map......the prepaid map shows the tmobile towers.....the postpaid map shows the tmobile towers and the roaming partners.......thats the problem with cingular.....they don't show roaming on the map and it doesnt show when you're roaming on your phone
Cing showed Rogers on the Phone when i was in Canada last week. Better Check their Map again, you have to Click on the Map (Zoom In) and it will Show Partners. http://63.241.153.180/coverageviewer/B2B.html
yeah but that street level coverage map isnt published on their site and a regular consumer who doesnt give a crap about their phone as long as it works doesnt hang out in these forums so that isnt much help and i know that that map posted roaming partners anyway...the point is....their fixed graphical representation doesnt show it and that is what matters...and their phones dont say when they're roaming
i applaud t-mobile and sprint for having street level maps with amazing, specific detail.......verizon is ok and cingular is horrible
Where is that Great VZW and Sprint Street Level Map? Could you Give that Link? cAN WE rEAD THE sTREETS in their Map? Never Knew They Have Street Level Map, It's about time they Make Street Maps. Give us the STREET LEVEL MAP LINK you're Talking about and we'll Believe You?
The maps that VZW has published openly for regular consumers on their webiste is better than the Cingular maps. Where is the link to the Cingular street level map from their website?? A regular consumer would not know it existed.
Prove it, let's see those better Maps, provide Link. Street Level Map Link PLs, we want to see those street maps you're talking about. (Street Level Means finding the Street where you are)
http://63.241.153.180/coverageviewer/B2B.html but this link isn't published on the cingular webvsite yet.....thats the thing.....it still isn't completely accurate and it doesn't go into detail about which bands your using....it just says affiliae network to mark roaming....it does show where 3G is available the only problem with this map is that its not accurate its very general
Jones, I just took a look at the link to those CING "street level" maps, & entered a street where I was at last week, & my friends CING fone had only 1, sometimes 2 bars, outdoors, thru much of the area streets ( reference - corner Robert St & Spring vally rd, Paramus NJ). Indoors here surley would have been worthless. The map is a joke. The entire visible portion of the map was all colored the highest level , dark orange "Best" , rather than even portions of "good" or moderate. (If 1 or 2 bars outdoors is "best" , what the heck does good or "moderate" even mean!!). I have a feeling that, probably with some exeptions, you are simply zooming in on the existing "generic" county/state maps that other carriers also provide, to simply see street names. It doesn't seem to change any coverage detail, there should have been large blotches of lower service levels. If this is how the maps work, they simply allow you to zoom in & see street names .. big deal. (PS - Andy's point was that the "regular" non-street maps that a normal customer would "actually" get to see on the carrier's main website were better than Cings ...
Thank you for clarifying my statement. I have also greatly noticed the overstating coverage on those maps. Areas with 1 or 2 bars outside where service even garbles from time to time really shouldn't be classified as "best" unless that is how good Cingular service gets. The maps may be accurate in some areas but its really not all that great in my area; T-Mobile maps are too conservative so I guess you can either get it one way or the other.
Why don't you re-read what we stated jones. We obviously said that Verizon has no street-level map(and we know that's exactly what you want to hear) and that cingualar has one. What we said is that the maps Verizon has linked to their page: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController?requesttype=newsearch are more detailed than the maps Cingular has linked to their page, at least until they link their street level map for the public offiicially. For normal shoppers, Verizon offers their maps directly from their website. The maps Cingluar has directly on their websites show whole states or the whole country. Regular consumers that don't read Hofo/WA would not know Cingular's street level map existed. Have a great day.
where's #501 Victory Rd, Salt Lake City, UT in that Map? Can you see it? Unless you can't see the Street Name, then it's Not a Street Map, but a State Map.
with any cell phone plan there are 3 major aspects to the billing home calling area--this is the area where you can make a call from withou incurring roam charges toll area-- the limits that you can call another number without having a toll (long distance) charge airtime-- self explanitory the most common misconception is the confusion over long distance and roaming....the easiest way to explain it is... roaming is where the phone is... long distance is where you are calling here are 2 examples... you are on a Tmobile plan... you are at home (I know for a fact that Tmobile plans are national roam and LD included) you are in NYC you call from your phone to your friend in Philly there are no roam charges and no long distance charges because you are inside your home calling area (the USA in this case) and domestic long distance is included in the airtime the flip side... lets say for a moment you are a former ATT custome with the America Local plan (an old local plan ATTWS used to have)... we'll change the locations a little to conceputualize... you are still in NYC... but your friend is in Chicago....you make the same call from NYC and because you are in NYC there are no extra charges...sounds the same so far...heres the difference... lets say you hop on a plane... you go to LA... you make the same call... from your phone... the call goes thru perfectly... but because the phone is outside the NYC home calling area you are billed .69/min Roam airtime and .20/min Roam long distance plus any applicable taxes see the diference? to answer your original question... the call will not be billied roaming as you are in the HCA for your rate plan your rate plan defines how you are billed...if you dont know your rate plan you could be in store for some nasty surprises... as a customer care rep the line "no one told me" or " the guy in the store said" is working less and less
T-Mobile has not enforced a 50% rule since they introduced national plans. When VoiceStream had the North American Neighborhood plan in the conditions in the plan it stated that you had to make at least 10% of your calls from your home area. Since they introduced national plans they've never enforced a "50%" rule.
yeah......like sprint........they need that roaming to survive and if they enforced a rule like that they would lose customers as "numerous as the stars" :biggrin:
Just so you know I was being a smart alex and made that map myself.:loony: Thought I would try and make a funny.
that's because Cing is still working on it, it's not officially released we just happen to find it in another Forum. It will be in their website once it's Fine tuned. i noticed some changes on it like the Partner Coverage where it was'nt there before. Hope VZW and Sprint makes street level map in the future.
I agree.....all providers should invest in a map like that....if verizon spends all this money to have field testers out in the US to test dropped or failed calls they can certainly afford to make a street level coverage map