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Discussion in 'Northeastern US Wireless Forum' started by jtownsucks46, Dec 25, 2003.

  1. jtownsucks46

    jtownsucks46 New Member

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    So my friend was trying to make the argument that Verizon is better than Sprint today and I totally shot him down, he didn't even know what to say. He didn't know that I could use Verizon's network for only $5 more a month as well as Digital and Analog Roaming from so many other carriers. Sprint also offers 7pm nights for $5 more and all this with more minute plans for less money. So basically Sprint is cheaper, offers better plans and options, offers much cooler phones, allows user to use all Sprint towers and gives you the ability to roam on Verizon if you so desire. So why would anyone choose Verizon??? It doesn't make any sense, all my Verizon friends want to switch, what a surprise!! :)

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    everything you say does make sprint look damn good. The only issue i have with sprint is the cost of add on services. My $30 a month plan (300 weekday, unlimited n/w) becomes a $50 a month plan if i want to add the new video services. What can you do bout it.
     
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    that is very true, i'm grandfathered into the $10 vision plan, and i dont have a video phone. i have 3 phones and my $10 vision covers them all, thus i pay about 3.33 per phone for unlimited internet and picture messaging. unless you're grandfathered in, you kinda get screwed with the vision stuff. still, using the internet and sending pics/videos never uses your anytime mins like that stuff does with verizon. and when sms messaging finally comes out, if you have vision it looks like you wont have to pay anymore to send messages.
     
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    this is very true. on my old a460, everytime i used the web, bye bye minutes, basically limiting it to the weekends.
     
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    Stupiud Yea, I can hear you now!
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    Um, for sprint you are only allowed up to 50% of your minuets for roaming on other networks....
    one of Vzw's primary roaming partners is Spring PCS, so your argument is empty...
     
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    better than none
     
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    And Verizon customers dont have access to all of Sprints network, so this is still a big advantage for sprint customers.
     
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    Is this really true, it sounds strange? Sprint has a monthly option that allows use of Verizon's towers for $5 a month? Also, do you think it makes a significant difference?
     
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    For $5 more a month, you can use half of your minutes off sprints network....analog or digital.
     
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    I'm sorry for not clarifying this in my earlier post. There is a 50% limit, you have to go over 50% significantly for at least 3 months for Sprint to do anything about it, and all they will do is send you a letter warning you that you're not using their network enough. They basically have this in place only so people who don't live in a Sprint area, buy a phone using another address and use it only on Verizon's network. In theory, someone could take advantage of Sprint's better plans this way if Sprint didn't have this rule in place. And just to clarify again, it's not only Verizon's network, its basically any network in the U.S. that Sprint phones can get a signal on. I know many peopl on the west coast that are able to roam on 4 other networks besides Sprint.
     
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    And I do think it makes a significant difference. I travel a lot, and oftentimes I'm able to get a Verizon digital or analog signal where Sprint's signal is not available. In many areas I force my phone to roam while there is Sprint service, and I'm not able to pick up anything on Verizon, only ATT analog. So to me it makes a big difference just because I travel. To others it might not be a big deal but I know in my local grocery store, I get a weak Sprint signal and no Verizon signal but ATT analog works flawlessly so sometimes it can come in very handy.
     
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    I wonder if it would be worth it in NYC for someone who doesnt travel alot. I imagine Sprint Service is pretty good in NYC. I am really thinking of giving up Verizon, primarily because their phones suck and are expensive. Debating btwn Sprint and TMobile.
     
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    I know that in NYC Sprint has very good service. Basically the only people I've ever really heard complain about it are those that get a poor signal in their house or apartment. Otherwise I've heard its very good. Verizon's phones really are kind of sad. I noticed their flagship phone is by LG, that's just sad, I mean Lucky Goldstar, come on now. Sprint has some really good Sanyo and Samsung phones with awesome reception.

    I had TMobile for awhile, I really liked their customer service, far superior to any other wireless company I've used. My only complaint was their roaming was pretty bad. As I remember, where TMobile didn't have towers you were just out of luck. That was a couple years ago, if they've changed that, then I would say just go with whatever company works the best where you are the majority of your time(house, work etc).
     
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    NYCDru Sprint Newbie
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    Were do i begin with this one.

    Onre of my dance partners is switching from Sprint to Verizon. Why?

    1.) Spritn in her house sucks, Verizon gets great signal.

    2.) Sprint at her Job Sucks, Verizon gets great signal.

    This is the argument ALOT of people who use sprint in NYC use for why they are switching.

    I haven't heard people saying they are switching from Verizon to Sprint for that Reason.
     
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    NYCDru Sprint Newbie
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    If you don't travel much, why don't you take advantage of Tmobiles 3000 min. for $50/month option?

    Also you have to get a higher priced plan for sprint to work out cheaper and pnce you start adding options forget it.

    Oh yea, don't forget, only the Newest phones will support phone based text messanging once it comes out come January/February.
     
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    larry Sprint loyalist and former mod
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    What I don't understand about this is that if Sprint really sucks that bad then why did they use them to begin with? Why not cancel before the trial period if they supposedly can't use their phones anywhere? Seems foolish to stick with a carrier if you can't use it at your home/work. [​IMG]
     
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    Maybee i should clarify some.

    Sprint is still usable in her house...as long as she is in her room and doesn't get too far from the window/walls. I had the same thing happen to me.

    When she got Sprint it worked at work and served her needs whoch was a way to talk to mom while out of the house.

    The only reason she did not leave till now was lack of number portablity and the Ridicoulously good retention offer she was getting. 600 anytime + 3000 Nights and weekends starting at 8pm for $30/month.

    Also, Sprint tends to be tempting to alot of students because of there low credit requirements.
     
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    Sprint's still the tops, verizon cant beat them and neither can the tingy sounding GSM carriers. Crystal clear is the way to go[​IMG]
     
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    I have been looking at Sprint but I am concerned that when I'm in rural areas, I'll be screwed. That has been Sprint's reputation for so long that it's hard to think differently about them. So, let's say I am heading up to Northern Maine. Presently, I get VZ signal until somewhere just north of Portland. Then it digitally roams on US Cellular, which is also CDMA. VZ has a roaming agreement with them. Am I to understand that if I had a Sprint plan and paid the extra 5 bucks, I'd be able to digitally roam on US Cellular in Maine? Anyone in Maine or traveling to Maine lately try this yet? If it's true, then the original poster's position that Sprint is better might have some merit, even with the 50% off-network limit. If not, a Sprint phone is not much more than a paperweight in Central and Northern New England.

    Suliman
     
  20. NYCDru

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    With Free and Clear america as i understand it you can use ANY signal you can get.

    Anyone know which phones from Sprint can be forced/hacked into to make them roam digitaly withought much effort?
     
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    twopiece D'oh!!
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    Verizon customers don't need access to Sprints network. Ours is better.

    The only thing I'll give Sprint is their phones. Being a hardcore Palm user, I wish the Handspring Treo 600 was available for Verizon, the Samsung I600 or the Kyocera 7135 just doesn't do it for me.
     
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    With free and clear america, you can use HALF of your minutes on ANY network you can get a signal on. And i dont know of any phones that can be forced into digital roam. But why would you wana do that? If there already isnt a sprint signal, wont the phone just give you the best roaming signal, analog or digital?
     
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    Sprint has roaming with most cellular carriers and any one of them can be used when roaming off network. The latest Sprint PRL (10021) will most of the time look for a digital roaming signal over analog but not always. Depends on the area and who their preferred roaming partners are there. There are some Sprint phones that can be force into digital 800 Mhz mode. My Samsung A500 is one of them. It's often more trouble to do than it's worth though. It has to be done thru the secret debug menu.
     
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    My issue is that i have gotten used to being able to maike and receive calls in places sprint just doesn't reach IN NYC. Mostly in buildings. Also, in my traveling I have seen even the best sprint phones FAIL were my Verizon phone was just fine.

    From what i have obsereved, on Free and Clear america, you have to have NO spritn Signal before you can use another signal. And in alot of places there is a very weak sprint signal and you won't switch to the roaming partner. IF this is realy the case then its realy not worth it the is it?
     
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    Um...what promotion alowed you to get this? I can't figure it out cause i know its not available now.

    And as far as one network versus another, how many dropped calls per month do you normaly have?
     
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    cant you just force the phone into analog and use that?
     
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    My plan is a retention plan and its not available to new customer's, once you're out of contract(after a year), you can get really really good plans like this one. And the poster who said you have to not have any Sprint service to be able to roam is absolutely wrong, probably getting Sprint confused with Verizon. With Sprint you can roam on an Anaolg signal at any time. If you need a Digital signal and have a very weak Sprint signal, just put the antenna down, this will usually make the phone lose the Sprint signal and find a strong digital(verizon etc) signal.
     
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    On average per month, I have one dropped call a day with Sprint, there is one dead spot on my way to work everyday, where I lose the Sprint signal. I have many more dropped calls using the digital verizon signal, I am forced to use at work since Sprint doesn't have service there. I'd say I have 5 dropped calls using Verizon's digital service a day.
     
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    Not really Dru. Any Sprint phone can be force into analog mode at any time.
     
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    Since I got Verizon in February, I have had somewere between 5 and 10 dropped calls....TOTAL(thats a 0.5 - 1 dropped call average per month). And that with talking while driving all over NY state, Conecticut, MASS, NJ, Eastern pennsylvania, and Maryland. I have experienced 1 dead zone outdoors with verizon driving from NYC to Cornell University and that is for about 1/4 mile while going around a hill.

    As far as your "5 dropped calls using Verizon's digital service a day" in searching this forum I have found that the Sanyo 8100 (your phone) Performs horribly at 800 mhz digital which could be part of the problem.

    I have had to lend my phone to Sprint and Tmobile users while travelling more times than i can count and the people i travel with now rely totaly on me for being able to contact people.

    In my personal (aka biased) opinion (I HAVE had sprint service before) They would be great, if there network were a bit more reliable in NYC and the surounding 150-200 mile area. But in my experience there network just doesn't cut it for travelig and in the city they are a very expensive option. If i wanted a phone for just in the city i woud go with Tmobile's 3000 anytime minutes for $50/month plan and drop my Verizon plan down to the lowest AC one for traveling on weekends.

    Should I ever moove out west to Cali i might consider sprint there, but for me were i am now Verizon ha just proven to be the logical choice.
     

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