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Sprint PCS Vision and AOL Instant Messsenger

Discussion in 'Northeastern US Wireless Forum' started by GatewayJen, Oct 17, 2002.

  1. GatewayJen

    GatewayJen Junior Member
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    I wrote to Sprint PCS AND the Public Relations Department at Sprint Corporate Headquarters about that blasted COMING SOON message you get when clicking on AIM under MESSAGING on the Sprint PCS Wireless Web. I just heard from the "e-care" department at Sprint PCS. This was their reply:

    "This is in response to your inquiry regarding America Online Instant Messaging. We are rapidly expanding our 100 percent digital network service; however, for competitive reasons, we cannot provide you with the exact date of our service launch. When we launch in a particular market, you will be notified through a high profile promotion. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience you have experienced. Thank you for contacting Sprint PCS."

    Blah, blah, blah. I just wish they would stop ADVERTISING how you can use AIM on their new Vision plan if you really can't yet. Very frustrating. Heard another rumor that they plan to launch AIM on their 3G network in November. Sure hope that's the case.

    E-mail me if you find out anything else. Thanks!
     
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    Put in a more realistic way, that message's REAL meaning was:

    "We are glad that we catched you in our trap so now that you are locked in a contract we're going to make you wait for AIM while you keep paying us money. We won't tell you when AIM will be launched because we are not ready for it. In fact, we don't even know if it will work."
     
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    Isn't that a fair case for cancellation w/o early termination fee?

    P
     
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    IdiOTeQnoLogY Bronze Senior Member
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    i dont know what market you are in i have never seen vision advertised in NJ with aol .........we have been told on the retail side to tell customers nov. 11th or so for the aol portal's availability on vision. if someone misled you or if you saw an add with that then you should not where and when you were told that aim was available on vision when you signed up and get some compensation.
     
  5. GatewayJen

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    I'm at the point now where I LOOOOVE the phone (the Samsung A500) but HAAATE the provider. If you walk into the Sprint PCS store on Route 46 in Totowa/Wayne, NJ, they have this looped video playing and it shows a COLOR version of AOL's Instant Messenger being used by Suzy Sprintlady, to demonstrate one of the many terrific features of their new Vision plan. My husband's beside himself, ready to go ballistic with them for false advertising. Not only am I paying $70 a month, but I'm also locked into a 2-year contract. I would hate to lose using this great phone, but would go back to Voicestream/T-Mobile in a HOT SECOND if I could get out of this Sprint deal without being penalized.

    Any suggestions? I signed up for this the week of August 8th (when it was publicized and advertized in our market) and have gotten the run-around with this ever since!![​IMG]
     
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    You have 2 options. One will solve things quickly, one will more likely be effective:

    The Quick Way

    Call cs, explain that you wish to disconnect your contract. When they ask why, explain that you changed over because you would be able to use the AIM feature and it hasn't been available. You're sick of waiting for something that was supposed to be there when you signed on and you're extensively dissatisfied.

    They'll tell you that the wait won't be long, you're better off waiting.

    Explain that you've had it, you're sick of waiting, and you're going to cancel.

    Around this time is when they're going to remind you of the early termination fee. They'll say something to the effect of: Well, if you wish to cancel, you'll be billed $150 (I think that's what it is for Sprint).

    Explain that you should be exempt from it due to the fact that you signed the contract under false pretenses.

    That SHOULD do it.

    If they say they cannot exempt you, ask to speak to someone who has the authority to do so. Keep asking them what you should do, and somewhat acting like a lost puppy. Use questions to trap them, because customer service is trained to help you but to stay on the company's side, so eventually, if you can get them to admit that you're right, they've got almost no option but to let you off the hook. Some questions that may help:

    Does this really sound fair to you?

    Do you see how this was misleading?

    In your opinion, am I right in this scenario?

    How can Sprint keep me in a contract which I signed based on a false impression that was given by the advertising?

    If no other option is available, tell them that you'll gladly pay the early termination fee, but their company can expect to hear from your lawyer on a charge of false advertising. If this doesn't convince them, call a lawyer. File a false advertising suit, smear them every which way; don't let them settle out of court, make a scene. In my opinion, if they don't let you out of contract without the fees, especially given the fact that you were, overall, RIGHT, they deserve every bit of negative publicity they get from a big obnoxious lawsuit. If you want, start class-action with every other dissatisfied sprint customer out there for misleading advertising, because frankly, their advertising gives the impression that their #1 in terms of signal (the largest all digital, all pcs network, built from the ground up.....I think the fact is, with the exception of local companies, it's the only all digital, all pcs.....etc...)

    The big thing is to stay absolutely polite throughout the whole conversation. Don't let them think you're a pissed off idiot who's just looking for a loophole, let them know that you're serious about the whole thing and not a bad person.

    The Effective Way

    Write a polite but irate letter to the CEO. Possibly a registered letter (the one's that HE has to sign in order to receive it).


    If you try either or both of these methods, good luck.

    Pat
     
  7. mrblackpcs

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    legally not true.
    you did not sign a contract with sprintpcs. you made an agreement. also there is nothing in the agreement thats says you have aim.
     
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    You're saying that she didn't sign a contract with Sprint? Can you clarify your statement?
     
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    that is the store i work at. i do now remember that clip in the video (all stores have the same one) it is kind of misleading and unfortunate. well it is up to you whether to try to get out of your contract armed with that ammunition or wait about 3-4 weeks when AIM becomes available. and you can switch to one of the better plans if you do stay (only 1 year contract on those)
     
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    sprint does not require customers to "sign" a contract. you agree to keep their service verbally.
     
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    mrblackpcs: You still have to pay an early termination fee, so it constitutes as a verbal contract that would hold up in a court even though the customer didn't actually sign a paper. By activating and using the service, a customer enters into the terms of a contract with Sprint.
     
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    I guess some of us call it "contract" others call it "agreement." Bottomline, we're talking about the same thing. About not having AIM, no contract will say anything about features of the plan, but I would feel cheated if I sign up for service with a company hoping to get what their advertisements are promising and instead I realize I cannot get the service I am looking for and end up hooked on a two-year commitment for service I cannot use the way I want. I don't think this is exactly legal.
     
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    Eh, God damnit! I cannot wait till its availible. grrr.... anyone yet know the date of it or atleast the targeted month? Or anyone got a picture of the color version in use?
     
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    targeted date is nov. 11th
     
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    Finally! A concrete date! Thank you so much [​IMG]
     
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    Dont go getting your boxers all in a bunch; excited for a date........this is a new service with a few bugs and just because there is a tentative date doesnt mean shyt doesnt happen.

    If 11/11 comes though and AIM is still a no go, you will be back on here posting about how pissed off you are.............again [​IMG]
     
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    I was able to get another DIFFERENT answer on this topic today -- this time from an AOL Representative:
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    Hi Jennifer,

    The AIM service is currently available on Sprint PCS's 2G network, but not yet available on their 3G network. We are working closely with Sprint PCS on developing a version of the AIM service for their 3G network; it should be available early next year.

    Hope this helps. Please let me know if I can provide any additional information.

    Best regards,
    America Online, Inc.
    Corporate Communications

    ===========
    SURE AM GLAD I switched back to my T-Mobile account and bought that Nokia 7210!
     
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    Bastards... I was on the phone with Sprint and they said late this month... I don't think anyone knows.
     
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    the email i got as a sales rep said targeted date nov. 11th. they are sticking by that....nevertheless I still posted "targeted" so you know nothing is set in stone. but so far it is still listed at our store on our retail tools as the launch date.
     
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    Idiot,
    Would that be national or just in NJ?
     
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    Sprint alwasy goes national whenever they launch network-based things. Its houldn't eb restricted to one area if/when AIM is launched.
     
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    I just read this INTERESTING tidbit on AOL's IM Wireless web page glossary:
    (http://anywhere.aol.com/features/main.adp?id=glossary_num)

    3G (third generation)
    Term commonly used to describe the third or next generation of wireless services. 3G services are expected to be available in Japan in 2001, with rollout expected in Europe in 2002 and in the U.S. in 2003. 3G wireless networks promise to deliver reliable, high-speed Internet connections to wireless devices. The first generation of wireless communications relied on analog technology, followed by digital wireless communications.
     
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    That article refers to 3G service in general, NOT to AOL's 3G offerings. US providers do not technically ahve 3G networks up yet. The higher-speed stuff is an incremental step toward 3G. GPRS and 1xRTT run about 115-144 at the maximum, which is not technically considered 3G.
     
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    After e-mailing an AOL Corporate Representative back and forth regarding this issue, and informing her that some of Sprint PCS' customers are being told that AIM should work by November 11th, I got this reply:
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    Thanks for sharing this. I suspect that the information hasn't trickled down to their store and phone representatives, but I've made our AOL Instant Messenger team aware of your experience and they in turn are alerting their counterparts at Sprint PCS so that this can be corrected.

    Best,
    America Online, Inc.
    Corporate Communications

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    I am assuming, then, that her original reply to me (about it being ready for 3G by early 2003) still stands. Sorry to all the folks that are expecting this to be ready on November 11th!
     
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    Hey Jen, what was the ultimate result of getting out of the Sprint contract/agreement anyway?

    Just curious...

    P
     
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    Tomorrow is the 11th, I hope it is done. *prays*
     
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    is it working for anyone????
     
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    Well, it is officially the 11th of November and it still ain't working; so much for dates NOT etched in stone!
     
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    grrr... It's the 14th now.... Nothin yet. But they have been re-ordering things on the site. Hrmm, Anyone got any new information?
     
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    i wish. i am going to do some inquiring at work and try to get some details. this is ridiculous.
     

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