Sanyo 4900 to PDA

DITTO

 

Ditto as well, somebody please help

 

Well, I've gathered some info, but it has been confusing and I'll try to sort it out:

This is what I wrote to info@thesupplynet.com, which has MANY cables to interface handhelds with cell phones

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PDA: palm m515

cell phone: Sanyo SCP-4900 (same connector as the SCP-5300 I belive, which
you don't have a cable for either)

I couldn't find a cable, and wanted to get one, now that sprint has gone to
unlimited vision servies (ie, no longer charged per kb, but flat fee of $10
a month) so that I can use PQA apps, and check my email on my palm. I'm
unsure if this cable will allow me to syncronize with the palm's address
book and such, but that's not as important, because I can sync both to my
pc.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

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Then I got this in response:

That model Sanyo phone only supports a USB connection. A serial connection is needed to connect to a PDA. Unfortunately we are unable to offer a solution for that combination.
Regards,
Supplynet Inc.

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Very dissapointing to say the least. But, on another website, www.lynnprod.com, which looks to be a manufacturer and wholesaler of specialty cabling products, I found a pdf file that lists what they make, what they will not make, or cannot make, and what they will make on request. The Sanyo 4900 to Palm universal connector (m500, m515, m505, etc...) is listed as one that they will make on request. Here's the URL:

http://www.lynnprod.com/pdf/ZDataCablesRev.pdf

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So, I don't know who is right. I emailed lynnprod.com, and asked them if any retailers had ever ordered these cables, I hope thier answer is yes, they made them, work perfectly, and here's the retailer, but I don't know. I'll post again when I hear back from them.

 

Try The Supplynet.com. They specialize is handset to PDA cables

 

that's who I emailed in the first place, at the top of the message, where it says I emailed info@thsupplynet.com. I didn't find this cable on thier site, so I emailed them, and that was their response.

Any other ideas?

 

Okay, how about this idea:

Use the USB cable for the phone (Sanyo 4900) and the USB sync cable for the palm (m515). Then get an adapter with two A - type Female ends and connect the cables.

This would physically connect them, but I don't know if it would do anything usefull for communications sake. Anybody know? I'll probably try it any way because I want to get the USB cable to sync the phone to my computer anyway, and I have a USB cradle for the palm, so if it doesn't work, I'm only out $5 for the adapter. So I'll let you know if it works, but if you have any comments or suggestions, please post.

 

I missed that re Supply Net-I am going to check around and see what I can find...

 

I emailed Lynnprods and got this response:

That sounds pretty definitive.

 

Ya, that does sound difinitive. It just makes me mad. I mean, why would you do such a thing, other than to make your customer's mad? I really don't want to go with the LG 5350 because it's more expensive, and from what I hear, doesn't get as good reception. I just think that they shouldn't have eliminated the serial port functinality until they were ready to impliment USB On-the-Go standard for this phone, that way you could still sync it directly to other USB devices. Oh well, I guess I get to decide now whether to return my 4900 (still in my 14 day period) and get the LG, or whether to live without wireless palm for a while.

Perhaps this is digressing, but I think it would be ultra cool for sprint to come out with a phone that is bluetooth capable, and get a Tungsten T or a new Sony that has bluetooth built in. Then you would basically have two wireless devices for one connection charge. As long as your phone was nearby, you could just pull out your palm and get on the net!

But, like I said, now I get to decide between the 4900 w/no PDA support or the LG. Any comments? I guess I'll go parouse the Lists again.

 

compusa sells a usb to serial adapter. I'm going to get one as soon as all of this after holiday madness is over

 

Oh how I wish this were true.

Unfortunately I have lost way too much sleep reading about the USB standard, but at least now I know how it works, and how we cannot connect a palm to the 4900...for now.

In order to communicate, a USB device requires something called a Host Controller. Basically a little chip that knows how to talk to all the 'dumb' USB devices, figure out what they are, and start communicating with it. Then the computer takes over with it's drivers and the rest is history.

However, USB devices do not have a host controller inside them. Therefore, it is impossible to connect a USB device to a USB device. There is no host controller, so the two dumb devices will just sit there, and nobody will start a digital conversation. The palm can be a USB device or a Serial device (which, serial devices CAN talk to other serial devices without a controller). But in the 4900 for some reason Sanyo did not put a serial controller in the phone, only a USB device. So, the only way the 4900 can talk to anything is if it's connected to a host controller, IE, you lug around your laptop in your pocket so you can connect your palm to your phone

So why did I say you can't do this "yet"?

There is something, which hasn't gotten tons of publicity yet, and even less actual commitment, called "USB on the go". It's basically a USB 2.0 compatible standard for devices that includes "limited host capabilities." This means that you can plug these devices into your computer and your computer's host controller will take over. But if you plug them into another USB device, the USB on the go device will initiate the conversation, and you'll be up and running. Unfortunately the m515 doesn't have USB on the go functionality (it was built before the standard even had it's final draft). However, I'm hopefull that there are enough people who own m5xx's that Palm will come out with a small connector that plugs into the palm and has an A type USB jack, basically a hardware "USB on the go" adapter for the palm. Then, we would be able to plug the 4900 into that, and we'd be good to go.

How long until this happens? I have no idea. Depends on how fast this new standard takes off, if it takes off. Until then, there's no talking between this "USB ONLY" phone, and our handy palms.



Sorry to dullen the mood, but a little truth, even if it's unfortunate, is necissary.

 

To caprieen, don't bother buying that device, it won't allow you to connect anything. You are correct in theory, but trust me, the software isn't setup to make it work.

 

Does anyone know if the 5300 Supports Serial?