Q about RAZR v3m and SEEM edits

I think the only way to really "fry" your phone is by unplugging it while data is being accessed. That is, while a seem is being read/written, while your phone is being updated, or while your phone is being flashed

So basically, to avoid "frying" your phone, keep it unplugged until any applications you are using are closed. Once everything is closed, you will be safe to unplug your phone.

Hope that re-assures you. I have done 20+ seem edits, and have had absolutely no problems so far :biggrin:

 

Make sure you keep backups of everything. That way, if something goes wrong, you can restore the phone to its original state.

Take things slowly and follow the instructions step by step and you should be fine. That said, seem editing is an activity that will void any warranty on the phone. You should think hard about whether it is really something you want to do or whether you are happy with the stock phone.

Personally, there is nothing that I have found in the seem settings to improve performance (my experience, YMMV). It is mostly fluffy stuff like changing the logo, etc. etc. The only thing "useful" thing I have done with a seem edit for is enabling engineering mode (once again, "nice to have" and not essential). On the other hand, editing the gain table will improve your phone's performance significantly and I highly recommend that - plus, the chances of frying your phone by editing the gain table is infinitesmal.

 

(right-click, save-as)

Here is a snap-shot list of the V3M BEFORE seeming.
http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/a...-v3m-seem-snapshots-for-motorola-razr-v3m.doc

Here is a list of all the SEEM's that we know of.
http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/a...-razr-cdma-versions-v3c-v3m-seems-for-v3m.xls

and here is some SEEM'ing instructions that are a little more in detail.

1.) Start MSU
2.) connect phone to mini-usb cable
3.) connect cable to computer - when the ESN Number of your phone shows up, then you are connected. NOTE: If MSU starts to update, let it. DO NOT do anything else until MSU has finished updating.
4.) Minimize MSU, do NOT exit from MSU, it must be running in the background
5.) Start P2k
6.) Set the following fields:
6a.) Bytes (h) = 0000
6b.) Seem = 2742
6c.) Record = 0001
7.) Click on 'load from phone' button
8.) click on 'save to file' button - it is always a good idea to 'backup' before you make changes. Give name of file if/when prompted.
9.) Use down/up/side arrows to scroll to the OFFSET you want
10.) Click on the Bit's box to turn it 'on' = checked or 'off' = unchecked.
11.) click on 'save to phone' button
Repeat steps 9, 10 and 11 to change all the SEEM's you want.
12.) exit P2k
13.) In MSU, click on 'end' and then exit
14.) disconnect cable from computer, then disconnect phone from mini-usb cable
15.) Then turn off phone for 10-15 seconds.

You are done!
Enjoy

 

OK... Verizon is a different story. You may very well find seem editing to be a worthwhile exercise to unlock capabilities that have been locked out. For Cingular, I didn't find seem editing to be a worthwhile exercise (although I went ahead and did it just to get the experience).

 

I have Verizon, also. I want some of the features back, right now I really want the external display to show the wallpaper on the inside... but does anyone here recommend any other feature I might want to unlock?

I might want to copy music from my computer to the phone, there's a built-in memory card, right? I don't know how big it is, 32MB or something? Anyway, what would I have to edit for me to be able to do that?

 

Try this site.

http://www.motov3m.com/tiki-index.php

 

Alright so I need MPT, but do I need to change anything when I seem edit the phone so I can transfer the files from my computer to my phone? I thought I had to change something. Hmmm.

"Bluetooth/USB File Transfer" maybe?

 

Some had to SEEM the phone to turn on the file transfer OBEX, some did not.

 

Seems that I really am glad I did:
The file transfer one
The call guard one that warns you if you are roaming when you go to place a call (warns you that you are roaming, and you have to confirm the call)
External display -> Graphic
Sound -> 7 bars rather than 5
Changing video capture length
WIP via my computer (not really a seem edit, but its handy)

 

You have been busy.

 

Yup. I've done just about every seem edit, and undone the ones that I didn't like or that didn't add any real features to the phone.

Still can't install applications and games to the phone though...

 

Hello i am also a noob to this and was j/w by "SEEMING" the phone as you guys say, does that mean you can enable i.e. internet/text messaging for free?...thanks

 

No free internet or text messaging.

Verizon has turned OFF a lot of functions by SEEM'ing it. So you can turn them back on so you can transfer all kinds of files to the phone, without having to pay VZW for them.

 

how about on sprint, cingular, t-mobile?

 

Cingular generally doesn't lock any ___tions, as for tmobile or sprint, I'm not too sure, seems generally are stock features disabled by providers to enforce useage of their junk. The obex disablement for verizon means you have to use vcast or whatever else to transfer images for example.

 

Do I need to install "Driver Tool" from this page: http://www.motov3m.com/tiki-index.php?page=SEEM to seem edit my phone? Is that the best tutorial to use?

 

You would need to install that driver to get your comp to recognize your phone as a usb modem. Unlike virtually any other device you would connect, XP doesnt have the correct drivers, so you must install them. Here is a list of sites I have found extremely helpful, and not one will answer ALL your questions. I found it helpful to subscribe to all of them to make sure I was getting the most out of my phone.

www.wirelessadvisor.com
www.howardforums.com
www.motov3m.com
www.motomodders.net
www.hacktherazr.com
mark.cdmaforums.com

All in no particular order, but if you cant find the answer you are looking for on any of those sites, you will never find it. A little research and patience and you can get your phone to where you like it, quite easily. The disclaimers are just to make you aware of what you COULD do, but it is very simple if you follow directions

These are a list of programs you will need to get your phone from stock to hacked :biggrin:

1) BitPim - Allows you to change certain features such as lcd image, startup/shutdown sounds and animations, among other things. It is free for download.
2) MSU (Motorola Software Update) - Puts your phone into the programming mode in order to perform the seem edits. It is free for download. (You can also use PST to do the same thing, but it is not "free")
3) P2Kseem - This is what is used to actually perform the seem edits. It is run after you start MSU. This program is free for download.
4) MPT (Motorola Phone Tools) - This is a powerful tool used to transfer pics, create your own ringtones and send them to your phone, etc. It is where most of the media is transferred to and from your phone. This program is not free for download. (Typically $30...although you might find other options to acquire it)

As I mentioned, all those sites above along with this one have alllll the info you could ever need. And if there is something you are unsure about, just post a question.

Good luck! Seem edits are not hard whatsoever, but you wil void your warranty.

PS. If you ever need backups, you can probably find links to them on these forums.

 

Ah! But how will I void my warranty? I got my phone from Verizon, and I pay something like $5 extra for insurance on the phone (if it ever breaks or whatever) ... is that the warranty I am voiding?

 

I don't know the specific details of your phone's insurance policy but I would wager it is meant to protect against *accidental* damage, not wilful re-engineering of your phone. Of course you can always make a claim, stating that your phone just stopped working one day and you want a replacement (and you will probably be successful) but I would opine that it will put you on the wrong side of the ethical/non-ethical fence.

 

Yes, if something goes wrong and they do whatever it is they do when they test it and see that you have modified the seems, they have the right to void your warranty. Now, if something happens to mine, I will just go in and change the seems back to the way they were. There isnt anyway for them to see you did something and then chnaged back. So you can take that for what its worth.

 

That's what I'm thinking... but here's a question I have. I think I did everything right, but apparently... when I connect my phone to the USB and open the Motorola Phone Tools... it doesn't put my phone to sleep it says "charging" ... before I edit any seems the phone should sort of be like... sleeping, right? Not charging?

Also, I am using P2kseem... how do I make a backup again? So that I can change everything back if something goes wrong?

 

The wrong side of the ethical/non-ethical fence? I shouldn't have to do all this... this phone should have come unlocked. I don't even think that there's a way for Verizon to make money by allowing the wallpaper on the inside LCD to be the wallpaper on the outside LCD. I haven't come across that service... so for me, this is nonsense. I am on the right side.

 

I think you have your programs confused. Read thru the info on both of these sites.

www.motov3m.com
mark.cdmaforums.com

This will inform you on which prohrams do what. MPT is virtually the last program you need, and really cant use it to its full potentiaL UNTIL you have made seem edits

 

I mean Motorola Software Update! Sorry!

I installed the driver tool, MSU, and P2KSeem, but when I open MSU and plug in my phone it doesn't put my phone to sleep or anything, it just says "charging"

 

When u first connect your phone, it chages right? If so, good. Next, when you installed and ran MSU, did it run through a series of driver installs? Such as Accessories Interface, Data Logging MCU Interface, etc? It should have done about 4 I believe.

 

Yep, all those were installed... but it doesn't stop charging when I open p2kseem...

I close MSU and I reopen it but still it charges...

 

So you screw the insurance company for a beef you have with Verizon?? lol.... if you claim that's ethical, be my guest.. I doubt the insurance company will agree.

 

Yea, that is fine, it will keep charging. Your phone doesnt shut down or go into any kind of "sleep" mode or anything. The way tp verify it is connected is if it shows your EIN on the scrren, does it show that on MSU? It chould show your EIN, and the other 2 shoukd say N/A. Is that hows yours is? If so, then you can open P2Kseem, and it should connect. Where did you down load your P2Kseem from?