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Open Access Will Start On....

Discussion in 'Verizon Wireless Forum' started by VZW-LOVER, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. VZW-LOVER

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    Febrary 14th!
     
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    Where did you get your info any sources?
     
  3. Jodi

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    Okay...I'm naive...what is open access?
     
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    Jodi,

    Open Access is just something like...

    Open Handset Alliance

    I mean it allows unlocked phones to come to Verizon (I think), and allows you to use 3rd Party Apps (right?)

    -PCSuser
     
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    Thank you PCSuser.....that helps a lot! :)
     
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    Sharper Image has GSM phones for sale, Perhaps they will add CDMA given the "open access" option. Perhpas others will too. Although switching a GSM phone is a snap with the sim card.
     
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    So....what is the possibility that the iPhone will add CDMA?? ;)
     
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    If they want to sell more then it will be CDMA too. But they can keep it as long as the battery is not consumer changeable.
     
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    5 year contract. Dont hold your breath on a CDMA version. i do believe there will be a 3G version in 09 though but we will see.
     
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    LOL the only way I would do a five year contract is if they pay me lol.
     
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    lol no i mean the iphone has a 5year contract with ATT i believe...so i dont think they will be making a version for the competition.
     
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    You can only add CDMA phones. No Itouch, T-Mobile, AT&T.

    Sprint, Altel and other CDMA phones ok. Also to do this your bil has to be in good standing. And a few other minor stipulations........

    February 14th is the start.......but like anything else with Verizon it could be delayed
    but what I've seen it's on target.
     
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    what are the other minor stipulations?
     
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    I hope you're right on February date...I can wait a few weeks. While Verizon is a proven network and I've never had "issues" with service, their phone choices are lame.
     
  16. SmArTeStChIlD421

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    that's for sure
     
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    This could provide a solution to my problem as well. Any documentation about specifics for porting over an unlocked phone other than the "account in good standing" ?

    Thanks.
     
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    it has to pass lab specifications or something like that.......cuz even if it is a CDMA phone they dont always work automatically like GSM phones do
     
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    this goes to show that the term "open network" is pretty much a publicity stunt. pretty smart actually.
     
  20. SmArTeStChIlD421

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    how will they determine if the phone is approved and capable??
     
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    It's not a publicity stunt. They are going to allow approved handsets to be used on the Verizon Wireless network. It's a great idea, and one that really took flight due to the Open Handset Alliance. Sure Verizon locks their network down tight and there are certain features that are supported with other carriers is blocked. It is, however, done with a business purpose in mind.

    1. Verizon takes a piece of the multimedia pie. You aren't 100% restricted to the VZW network of approved vendors for ringers and graphics. You are free to use other methods such as SMS and media side-loading through a Micro SD card. Your mileage may vary with your technical knowledge and know-how.

    2. Verizon makes sure that the average user has access to content at an affordable price, and assures the customer that the content will not harm the mobile device. When is the last time downloadable content from VZW killed a phone?

    3. One simple to use, universal interface is easier to support. Yes, I'll admit the typical "Rainbow" theme and UI that goes along with it is rather dated. However, I know how to operate my phone and many others like it on the VZW network because they all pretty much behave the same way. Some have better cameras, mp3 players, and sharper screens - but they all behave just the same.

    Think of a new PC running on the same OS you are used to, just a little flashier, faster, etc.

    So of course there will be restrictions on the types of CDMA handsets that will be allowed on the VZW network. That's just quality control right there. I haven't really seen a compelling CDMA device outside of VZW's line-up of handsets that makes me want to run out and pay full retail for a competitor's device only to be able to use it as a phone primarily. I'm sure PDA-esque devices will be able to be reconfigured to browse on VZW's network. But for phones that don't have VZW's firmware, you may be limited to just phone calls.

    I'd rather focus on the quality of the calls I'm getting on the devices that are currently available to me than open up another can of worms by being able to add into the mix devices that weren't designed to be optimized and used by my carrier.
     
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    ehh i mean i guess i just consider "open network" the ability to just use the phone as you want and to use it on what network you choose it.

    i understand what your saying about the other things like software and verizon firmware. that is all important and definetly helps the phones to work a bit better, but then again ive never seen a phone crashed off of a ringtone or download either.

    it just seems to me that from what your describing is like one, but it still has alot of restrictions, i think anyone can admit that. it is still nothing close to what you can find from a GSM provider where they will let you use whatever phone you want with no restrictions except for the phone to be unlocked.
     
  23. SmArTeStChIlD421

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    yeah honestly open network means being like GSM where you can swap to any device.........or even better you can just offer phones and then just R&D to create firmware for the phones that Verizon doesnt and never will offer..........so Verizon could make firmware for the LG Rumor for those who wanted to buy it through Sprint and later switch.......they could just go to a store and load new firmware on it........yeah its pricey cuz their a lot of different models and everything.....

    but if you look at it..........Verizon can use any phone that works on the proper frequencies but they can also have a list of recommeded phones........phones that they have made firmware for......
     
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    i dont see why they wont let you web browse off other companies firmware, can you not just change the wap ip access address' points like you do on a gsm device?
     
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    As Neil Armstrong said: "That's one small step for US carriers, one giant leap for Verizon Wireless."
     
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    open access is a step in the right direction for verizon... but its very limited in terms of handsets... you don't have the variety and numbers like gsm has... it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out in the next few months... especially with andriod entering the market very soon.
     
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    I think for now the only big benefit is, for example if Sprint has a "Red" Pearl available, you'd be able to buy it from Sprint and activate it on Verizon. But I would think it would have to be on an approve list. But I'm sure the carrier you'd buy it from would charge a premium price for it.

    But again, logistics will a major factor for the carriers.
     
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    technically if a phone is running OEM software and isn't locked to any specific carrier thats how it should work but that would mean Sprint and Verizon and Alltel would have to publicly disclose their access point info...........can you see serious hacks???
     
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    Yup~ I didn't think of that....but your right!
     
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    T-Mobile has already gone ahead to do that they have the online phone configuration utility.............AT&T's is just general knowledge at this point...............but what are Verizon's and Sprint's??? does anyone really know???
     
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