I'm seeking advice on finding an online deal from Verizon. They seem to be the stingiest in terms of giving out deals on phones and free minutes, not to mention who they allow to market their service. Amazon, GetConnected, Point, and other well-known places don't seem to sell VZ's stuff. Why is that? Anyway, a few notes on where I'm coming from in all of this: I'll soon be living in Brooklyn, NY and I'm leaning heavily toward Verizon for my first cell phone (see my post in the "New to Wireless" forum on trying to decide between Verizon and Sprint). Currently I am in the San Francisco area and will be driving across the country (with my stuff) to get to NY. I'd like to have the phone for that drive. But I'll need the phone to be programmed for NY, where I'll be using it almost exclussively after that first week (or so) on the road. Hence the emphasis on online retailers; I can't go into a Bay Area storefront and get a NY-programmed phone from them. Besides, if I have problems with the phone, I'd never again have access to the place I got it. So there's my dillema: getting a NY-programmed Verizon phone to the Bay Area without paying VZ's outrageous phone costs. Ultimately I could walk into a Verizon storefront and I think they'd get me a NY-programmed phone (at least that is what one CSR told me). But I'd really like to avoid paying $280 for a V60i or 4230 for a VX1. Any help would be truly appreciated.