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Number porting problems with Boost

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by crash5oh, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. crash5oh

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    Hey all.

    I've been using Tracfone for several years now, and for some reason for the past 6 months, I couldn't add any airtime to my phone without calling and spending >30 min on the phone reading and entering codes...This happened every month when it should have automatically added time to my phone.

    Having gotten fed up with that, and wanting a qwerty keyboard phone, I bought a Boost Mobile Sanyo Incognito.

    Herein lies the problem.

    Called Boost to activate. Told to call Tracfone for them to realease number.
    Called Tracfone to have phone number released.
    Called Boost to inform them it is released-Boost requests account number and PIN number from Tracfone.
    Called Tracfone to verify my account number is the phone serial number, and I have no PIN.
    Called Boost back, and everything seemed to be fine until he told me the port should take effect within 48 hours. Right after that he tells me that I cannot port my number to a "CDMA" phone(whatever that means). He tells me I can "attempt" to return the phone to the place I bought it (150 miles away...)and swap it for an IDEN phone(whatever that is...).

    I would never have bought the phone if I knew I couldn't port my number, and having to drive 150 miles back to where I bought it, argue with them about swapping it for another phone, doesn't really appeal to me either. I'm fairly certain having opened the phone, charged it, and basically activated it they wouldn't take it back.

    So am I stuck with no other option but getting a new number? Has anyone else experienced this?

    Thanks!
     
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    Not sure why they are saying you can't port your number to a CDMA phone? The CDMA/iDEN thing has to do with the network technology phones use. It shouldn't be a barrier to porting from TracFone to Boost, but...

    Let me try and explain this. Sprint is the parent company of Boost. Boost is the prepaid counterpart of Nextel, which is also part of Sprint. Boost and Nextel use iDEN network technology. Sprint uses CDMA technology (for reference Verizon, former Alltel, MetroPCS, Cricket and US cellular also are CDMA). CDMA and iDEN are incompatible with each other. iDEN phones use a SIM (subscriber identity module) card, similar to what GSM network phones (AT&T and T-Mobile) use (TracFone uses SIM cards as well where they operate on a GSM network, but this is not everywhere). GSM and iDEN SIMs are not compatible with each other and neither are the phones. Confused yet? This is the network landscape of cell phones in the U.S. right now. Just wait, there are more confusing acronyms and network differences on the horizon...

    Recently Boost has been offering CDMA phones in addition to iDEN. Being part of Sprint allows this, but apparently it sounds like Boost isn't prepared for ports to their CDMA phones.

    I'd recommend calling Boost customer service and finding out more of what the deal is. Try Technical support or even a "Port" department, if they have one.

    It doesn't make sense why they can't do the port unless there are technical issues, which sounds more likely as number porting has been around a long time, enough for stuff like this to have been worked out. Apparently Boost still has issues...
     
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  3. crash5oh

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    Ah, ok. I understand the difference now...but I can't see any reason the number can't port.

    I did get directed to the "port" department once after 2 reps couldn't help me, I'll try to get to them directly and see if I can figure it out.

    Thanks alot!
     
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    Sad to say Boost customer service leaves A LOT to be desired. Someone there should know what to do. I don't know why it's so hard for them to figure out how to make this work? Good luck, though.
     
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    It is strange that they are giving you a run around about porting your phone #. It probably takes them an extra step since its originally an iDen phone # and don't feel like helping you , Just insist.
     
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    Actually his phone number from TracFone is not iDEN.
     
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    There is no such thing as an "IDEN phone #" or a CDMA phone number, or a GSM phone number. The number is belongs to the provider and per FCC's LNP terms you are able to port from any provider to another irrrespective of the type of technology used by the providers.

    I myself had a T-Mobile (GSM) prepay number ported to Verizon (CDMA) and another Verizon number ported to AT&T (GSM) prepay and then to postpay, all done without any hiccups.

    Too bad Boost is giving the OP such a hard time with this.
     
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    Is it possible there is no Sprint service in his area (he did mention he bought the phone 150 miles away)? There are some areas with "native" Sprint service that Boost CDMA does not offer service (though I thought these places were mainly in Kansas and Montana).

    If iDEN is the only option for service, then it is possible the Boost rep was correct. If the boost rep was correct, there is the Motorola i456 with a full keyboard if you still want to go with Boost.

    Now with that in mind, as was pointed out earlier, Boost customer service leaves a lot to be desired.

    Page Plus is also a good prepaid option, they use Verizon's network. You can find info about them at www.pagepluscellular.com.

    Just about any old Verizon phone will work on the service.
     
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    The service is available where I live. The reason I was so far away is that I had been wanting this particular phone, and the local shops were always sold out of them. I happened to be visiting a friend and thought to check their stores and found one.

    When I tried to port the number, they asked me who the service was with. I told them Tracfone. Later, they tried to tell me it was a Bellsouth(cingular/ATT) number. I corrected them, and they told me it really didn't matter, it was all the same.

    Thanks for the link to the FCC complaint form. I haven't been able to do anything on this because of my work schedule, but I'll hold it in front of their faces if they give me any more crap.

    Thanks all!
     
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    I got hold of them this morning, and went through 3 different techs before figureing out this issue.

    Apparently, the iDEN and CDMA phones run on different networks. So even though they are both Boost, and Boost generally runs on the Sprint network, in my area the two different types use 2 different, non compatible networks.

    The issue is that the phone number I want to port is not a viable number on whatever CDMA network they are using here. Specifically, the prefix is not available...This I could at least partially understand-the phone number is from the town my mother is from(so that it is a local call for her to reach me). Evidently the prefix isn't usable as Boost's CDMA network has no support for that area. So I guess it is kind of like moving to a different city and trying to keep the same prefix on a land line...though I wouldn't think that would be too much of an issue with cellular service.

    In all actuality, I had a similar experience trying to port my first numer from ATT to Tracfone. At the time, however, it didn't bother me too terribly to get a new number....Guess I get to go through that again.

    At this point I suppose it just serves as a warning for anyone going to a Boost CDMA phone from a GSM or iDEN phone...you might not get to keep your number
     
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    Thanks for the update. As I mentioned a couple posts earlier, Boost runs on two networks everywhere...the iDEN network (Nextel) and the CDMA network (Sprint), which as you have learned are not compatible. Up until about a month ago, Boost was pretty much iDEN only, with a few limited exceptions. Sprint decided to bring the Boost brand onto their CDMA network on a national basis only recently.

    I am having some trouble understanding the specific issue though. You say you can get Boost CDMA service, but not for your prefix? Is the number you are looking to port from an exchange that is outside Sprint's coverage area?

    As an example...I doubt you could port a number from a Yuma, AZ exchange to a carrier in Flagstaff, AZ if that carrier doesn't also cover Yuma. The two cities share an area code but are about 5-6 hours apart by car.

    If the number you have from Tracfone comes from an exchange that is assigned in an area that Sprint does not offer service, they will be unable to port the number to Boost CDMA..
     
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    That's exactly what it is. The prefix is from a city about 30 miles away in which I no longer live. I wanted to keep that local prefix as my mother lives there, and she could call me with no charges. Since Sprint has no service there, I can't use that number.

    It makes sense now that I understand why. Just hate I had to waste so much time with their service techs before they explained it to me in English rather than Engrish.
     
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    Got it, thanks for clarifying for me further. Glad you got it all worked out, even if it means you lose your number.

    It is annoying to change numbers, but the good thing about being unable to port (in this case) is that you can keep your Tracfone active until your service expires and record a voicemail greeting informing callers to reach you at your new number.
     
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    Yeah, since I have 2 years of service left on the Tracfone, I thought of keeping it active as a backup. Adding time to it is cheap enough, just don't want keep it as my main line.
     

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