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Nokia will dominate the CDMA market.

Discussion in 'NOKIA' started by XprtCop, May 2, 2004.

  1. XprtCop

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    And this is true, besides motorola, Nokia is a MMMMMAAAAAAAJJJJOOORRRRRRRRRR player in the wireless market, just wait until they start releasing handsets galore.

    With their major introduction back in CDMA with the New Sprint Nokia 6225, Nokia is set to take over AGAIN, i can already see it, Sanyo... Get moving!
     
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  2. NokiaKrazy

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    I'm curious how you are so sure of this? I like your thinking!
     
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    They are not only going to have to win the customers, but also the hearts and minds of the wireless sales reps, they used to do allot of Spiff programs, win this win that for selling their handsets, but I have not seen too much of that in recent years.

    Plus many reps have a bad taste in their mouths from some bad cdma Nokias....but with the turn over in the wireless industry if they wait six months with most carriers they will have a whole new batch of employees to convince to sell Nokia.
     
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    Think Nokia can be popular with Verizon. Saw many analog phones with airtouch very few CDMA phones over the years with Airtouch/VZW? Since Nokia makes there own CDMA chips they can do things that the other providers can't ;)
     
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    That was initially the problem with Nokia and Motorola cdma phones, they didn't want to go with qualcomm chips so their first batches of cdma phones were less than perfect.
     
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    Does Nokia make their own CDMA chips still?? I last I heard they do
     
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    Interesting, but as of right now for Sprint, I think that Nokia needs to release a CDMA flip phone with as much features as Samsung's VGA 1000, then IMO, the competition will heat up...:D:cool:
     
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    Wouldn't the 6255i be a good start?

    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id[]=515&id[]=318

    Looks like the 6255i beats the VGA 1000 by offering things like an e-mail client and Bluetooth :D
     
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    I would love to see a flip/clamshel style phone with the Nokia UI for verizion,this would be a dream come true for mel :)
     
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    After just a short time in the the store, I conclude that the Sprint 6225 is terrible. Bad keypad, low quality screen, bad earpiece, blurry camera, horrible battery life, can't handle dead ringers or apparently even some Vision-purchased MIDI ringers, the phone feels beyond flimsy too.

    THe phone does seem to get great reception though and has a nice form factor.

    If given the choice between the 6225 and the 3588 I would take the 3588. :eek:
     
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    It could be that Verizon might even carry the 6255i. I don't think they want Sprint gaining an edge with a wide phone selection.
     
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    I hope so, it looks like it could be a good phone
    :)
     
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    That dosn't surprise me at all. Just look at the way SU members are dumping the 6225 soon after they get it. :(

    But at least the 3585i & 3588i were good improvements from past Nokia CDMA phones. :)
     
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    I don't think I have ever seen a phone so hyped up and then become such a letdown for the SU people like the 6225.
     
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    Yup I think that quite a few people would also get the 6255i due to it having Bluetooth and many Sprint/Verizon users have been asking for BT CDMA phones.
     
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    If the 6255i has great reception and has the quality like most Nokia phones have this should be a killer come this fall! :D :)
     
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    Nokia has some re-inventing to do.

    They could start by re-making their absolute-top-of-the-line-all-the-bells-&-whistles phone, the 9500, as a quad band GSM phone. Selling two tri-bands of this phone is like selling a Ferrari with only 3 wheels. (Don't worry, it is only missing the left rear wheel - just keep turning left all the time and you will be fine!! If you want to turn right, then you need to buy a second Ferrari with the right rear wheel missing.)

    Next they could start using 256K color screens on their high end phones. Would gravity stop working if Nokia were one of the first to use the latest display technology (rather than the last)?

    In CDMA, they could use Qualcomm chipsets. This would make their CDMA phones truly 100% compatible instead of "almost" 100% compatible.

    Nokia can stop their slide, but they will not do this by "business as usual." When you lose market share, it is a wake up call. Bringing out phones in a single new form factor might help, but I doubt that it will magically recover their lost market share.
     
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    One of Nokia's continuing problems has been their quality. It is not as good as the competition.
     
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    I had a Nokia for 1 year with US Cellular in 2000-2001 it was a very durable phone. I have not had a CDMA phone from Nokia, so I can't comment much other than friends like the 3589i, My uncle had 5185i He thought it was good until he saw other phones and changed.
    Friends that get service with AT&T and usually T-mobile most of the phones they buy are Nokia they seem last longer than Motorola and other brands; however, I am judging from phone bought from 2002-early2003. So I can not say Nokia phones that are coming out now are just as good as the ones in the past.
    So is Nokia's quality in phones going down??
     
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    I do not believe that Nokia's quality is going downhill. However, their competitors' quality is improving and now Nokia is falling behind.

    I've had dozens of phones, including 6 Nokias. My experience with Nokia phones has not been great (4 of 6 dead), but that is only my experience. As I have read through the various wireless forums, there appears to me to be a common complaint about Nokia: their quality.
     
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    They also expected WAY too much out of the phone. They should have read up on phonescoop. Of course the speaker sounds like crap, so does the 88i, it's just nokia. At least it gets good RF still. And those people are SO picky it is pathetic, they can't keep a phone for more than one week. While it may seem the nokia would be a great phone for me, I couldn't keep it for 18 months....though I doubt I could keep any phone for that long, heh. However, for many people 80$ for a nokia camera phone is attractive. Costco looks attractive to me though :)
     
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    I agree, I do think they set themselves up for disappointment. Still, I really think issues like not being able to play certain MIDI ringers and QCP files is weird for a Vision phone. As for how flimsy I thought the phone felt, others could have avoided that problem had they actually waited until the stores got the phone in before buying it over the phone.
     
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    Agreed, it would be very worth checking out.

    Mororola has pi$sed on it's shoes enough times in the CDMA market, I would love to see another company...Nokia, Kyocera, LG really put the screws to them.
     
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    CWick,

    I agree with you the more competition the better. The UI on the newer LG phones 6000 & beyond is pretty good my next phone at least in the interim will most likely be a LG :)
     
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    Would love to see that 6225i come to Verizon... :cycle:
     
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    me too CWick :cool:
     
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    It mentioned something about Brew, so that could be good sign.
     
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    yes BREW ia a good sign :cheers: :wink:
     
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    The thing about Nokia is that they are good at putting out cheap phones. There is a large amount of customers that still want a phone that can just make and recieve calls. Not every customer wants to buy a $150 phone. I know their quality sucks but the wireless industry needs cheap phones.
     
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