Nextel is Unbeatable!!!!!!!

how much they charge for wireless 3g web access?

 

Nextel has the worse service of any carrier I have seen on the East Coast, they have crappy phones, expensive plans and that's if you pass their strict credit check with out having to leave a depost of up to $500.00, they act like your trying to buy a house from them.
My advice would be to go with one of the other 5 major carriers, they have better service, better phones and better plans.

 

I must disagree with people who keep bashing Nextel. I was with Verizon for 3 years, until a month ago when on the recomendation of numerous friends who have Nextel convinced me to switch to the Nextel service. I was very impressed when I placed my order over the phone. I ordered two i60c phones, Breakthrough 5000 plan for each phone, and premium web for both phones, which had a special of an additional 100 anytime minutes a month per phone. I had the phones the next day at 1pm. There was no shipping, no activation charges, and no deposit. Activating them took about 5 min. The most impressive part is the voice clarity, and signal strength. It was a vast improvement over Verizon. I always had a lag on Verizon's service when talking to someone. It was like it was in delay or something. I was so impressed I took my regular phone service ( also Verizon) down to the cheapest plan they offered. I use the Nextel for 90% of my calls now. Also the speaker phone is very clear, and the convience of the direct connect feature goes without saying. Im sure Nextel is not great everywhere, and I am not saying Verizon is bad either, just that in my area Nextel is far superior. Finally I would like to comment to the people who complained about Nextel's credit check. There is one simple way around that. Pay your bills on time and dont max out your credit cards. Its not hard. If your credit is good there wont be a problem. Im sorry if I offended anyone, but I get tired of hearing people gripe that a company wont give them credit. Yes there are some companies that are tougher than others, but its not there fault you have poor credit.

 

Most people who bash Nextel never had the service because they need a deposit or they paid the deposit but not their bill and didn't get their deposit back.

There is no 3g data service as Nextel has decided there aren't enough people willing to PAY for the infrastructure required for it. Instead with software enhancements to iDEN they can create WiDEN (Broadband) access with speeds upto 132kps without laying down serious capital.

 

Wow, you must be using a different Nextel company than the one i just cancelled 2 months ago to go back to Verizon . Nextals $200.00 dollar termination fee was well worth it to go back to Verizon . It took me two months and a half dozen calls to get my account cancelled.

 

Nextel service all depends on where you are. I am in the NYC metro area, and I have had nextel, and I must say their service is pretty bad all over the 5 boroughs, Verizon is best here. However, I went to Mass. for vacation and I must say, Nextel service was excellent. It was even better than verizon which my other family memebers had. I always had a strong signal, and verizon had a weak one or none at all. Just really depends on where you are.

 

I get better then that with AT&T, but I have an "expired" plan, which is much better then what they offer now.
Right now with AT&T Local Digital plan you can get for 49.99:
900 anytime (700 +200 promotional)
unlimited nw
free long distance.

If you have a corporate account you will get additional 15% anytime minutes, which will bring it up to 1005 + discounts on the montly bill.

AT&T might not have the best service in some areas, but in my case it's just as good as Verizon, and better then Cingular & T-Mobile (forget the others). It has a prety good coverage anywhere I go.. But again, what works great for me might not work well for my neighbour... In fact, in my neighbours house, which is only a couple of blocks away, Cingular works much better then AT&T.

In my opinion, you have to see what service works for you and then pick the one that's cheaper.

 

Even I agree that the NYC/LI/northern NJ area is one of Nextel's worst markets.

-SC

 

Their packages aren't bad but if the phone show "No Service" most of the time, what good are they?

Suliman

 

Nextel has found a niche and is happy with it and obviously they must be making sombody happy since they are staying in business. Nextel is more business oriented than other carriers. More power to them.

DandyDon, i really like your avatar. It's hilarious. Would you mind posting it somewhere in public space on myPhoneFiles.com? i understand if you don't want to.. i like neat little clever logos like that..

 

here in NJ after observing the fates of my spcs phone, friend's nextels, at&t, T-Mobile and verizon IMO I'd say Nextel coverage is not as good as spcs or verizon but better than at&t and T-mobile's. but this is all for the places where we all hang out and travel (primarily north jersey with some NW jersey and city hanging out) also with spcs the phones can make a world of a difference. pretty much anything LG, except the 5350, as well as some samsungs like the a460 can make the network look virtually nonexistant. so to take my rating of spcs you have to consider I have a sanyo phone.

 

Like to original post said, in some areas some service providers are better than others. I'm in NYC and Nextel is good. I would have to say that Verizon is the best, but Nextel fits my need. I use Direct Connect alot, and with Nextel I have saved lots on money on my monthlty bills. As far as the phones go, i like the i90, i95(though its a bit bulky), and the i60. As for the other models, their a bit bulky for me.

 

Cingular gsm850.... $49.99 gives you 1000 daytime and 5000n/w....! Nextel bad-- iden is dead.

Jay.

 

I had Nextel as a company phone for about 6 months, I could not use it inside the building where I work, at home it worked decent, and on the road, alot of droped calls. But the worst thing was when I traveled to NYC, I had a signal no matter where I was, but trying to make a call was about impossible, the network busy messages was way too annoying. But that was just my experience.


And by the way, I didnt know anyone else with Nextel so the direct connect feature was no good to me. Now with it going nationwide, there are alot of our sales reps that have Nextel, so the DC might be a good idea, I wonder if they will come up with a rate plan that does not include any cellular minutes, but unlimited DC. If they dont, I guess I could always wait for Boost to come to Ohio, for $1 a day they give unlimited DC, sounds like a good deal to me.

 

Nextel is business oriented, and they have alot of business clients, including corporations.
However, companies want to save money, and when it comes time to look at the budget, Nextel's expensive service may be the first to go, since there are other companies that can do the same thing, better than Nextel, T-Mobile for one, except for Direct Connect.
Nextel is growing. They are stuck with a technology that noone else has, noone make handsets for, except Motorla, and noone really cares about them, but Motorola. No 3G for Nextel, not just because it's expensive, but because it's alot more expensive for them to upgrade, than it is for the other companies.

Bottom Line: Though Nextel's rates are getting cheaper, unless they get as cheap as other providers, they won't be around much longer (3 years). This is just my opinion.

 

A good friend of mine has Nextel and he is very unhappy with his service, we live in the NYC Metro area and he has a great deal of difficulty placing calls in the city because the system keeps saying "BUSY" and then on the rare occasion when he is able to place a call it drops out before he is finished needless to say he is very anxious for his one year contract to expire so he can drop Nextel and go with one of the other carriers.
So basing my opinion on my friends constant problems with service I would say that Nextel is very Beatable.

 

The wireless carrier provided a technology update featuring work it is doing with Motorola, provider of its iDEN digital wireless network, that Nextel believes will keep it differentiated and competitive in the crowded, price-focused business. A critical technology enhancement is development of the 6:1 vocoder, which Nextel says will be delivered in the first quarter of next year with plans to launch it commercially by Q3. Nextel widely is seen as being the most capacity-constrained of the major carriers, given its spectrum holdings and its network technology.
'This cost-effective enhancement to our existing iDEN network brings Nextel what we believe is the most important benefit of 3G technology - voice capacity,' says Barry West, Nextel's chief technical officer. Other wireless carriers are forced to spend billions on entirely new platforms to achieve similar gains in capacity.

Aiwapro, Motorola built iDEN technology...it's basically a mix of TDMA & GSM. That's why Moto is the only one to provide handsets for them. They will also be able to achieve 3G speed's on their wireless web too, so in my opinion I think Nextel's just alittle smarter then everyone else. Spending less money to achieve the same thing and have more features then everyone will keep them alive in the long run. Now with Nationwide Direct Connect available everyone's just alittle jealous, so please tell me again who do you thinks going to last.

 

Economies of scale will always keep Nextel a step behind. When a company goes on its own and has to lean on a technology nobody else uses, things will always be more expensive since they can't "power buy" equipment. Motorola is the only company that supports iDEN, and basically has the power to charge Nextel almost anything to buy new equipment. The market for iDEN is small; Motorola can't make money unless it makes up for all the R&D needed to develop a relatively small amount of equipment (remember that Nextel is the #5 provider in total subscribers). I'm reminded of when IBM used a "micro-channel" design in its late 80s-early 90s computers. It was technically superior to the standard connectors everybody else used (ISA; PCI wasn't developed yet) for sound cards, modems, etc. However, since only IBM used it, it was standard to pay $200-300 for a sound card that would otherwise cost $100 with a standard connector.

Eventually Nextel's hand will be forced, and it will have to decide whether to pay a premium for anything it wants to do with iDEN or join the crowd and go to either CDMA or GSM.

 

CINGULAR WIRELESS

1000 day minutes
5000 night and weekend minutes
long distance ect........
49.99

 

Jmccrane, but it's funny you mention that, don't you find it ironic that T-moblie, Sprint & other wireless providers are barely making any money??? T-moblie & Sprint carry a very high debt load more so than anyone else out there, it reflects so in their stocks and in there current buildup of their networks. Sprint has scaled back almost 50% and cut lots of jobs, T-moblie is looking for someone to buy them but can't because of their debt load. So i guess my question is, what good is it to spend all this money on CDMA, GSM & 3G technology if you can't make any money???

 

Njscngulrgsm, isnt this a local plan???? With Nextel it's a nationwide plan, I couldn't find a Cingular plan like this on their web site.

CINGULAR WIRELESS
1000 day minutes
5000 night and weekend minutes
long distance ect........
49.99

 

NEXTEL IS THE MOST IGNORANT COMPANY EVER!!!!....NEXTEL WILL GO BACKRUPT OR MERGE!!!....don't belive me...well lets point out the obvious...nextel has a 12 BILLION dollar debt and it hasn't made any profit until the last quater last year...when it saw it first profit...Nextel has no second source of income like other wirelss proivders sprint and verizon....Second Nextel doesn't have a mix of TDMA and GSM Technology....nextel is all TDMA and iDen.....and if they ever upgraded they would upgrade to cdma not gsm....Third NEXTEL it self said that "they are not going to upgrade to 3g"..they're just going to wait like 8 years for 4g....The only upgrade they're doing is to double thier voice capacity and the national direct connect....(RUETERS Article Dec 3)....so yea nextel users are going to get the same service for the nect 7 years...no improvements in technology...no picture sending or video capabilities...NOTHING NEW!!!....why not...cause they have to pay off thier huge debt....and they can't afford an infrastructure upgrade....now in the mean time..Sprint and verizon are both planing on having Push-to-talk...even since nextel's patent on the technology expired last year...with verizon and sprint both doing push to talk and offering high speed connection 144kbs+ ability to send pictures and video in the future....they're both going to upgrade to 3G and have direct connect which is suppose to be better than nextel ,work nationally and ALLOW GROUP SENDING FOR FREE....nextel will loose customers as quickly as they aquire them....all the way till seven years from now when they finally decide to upgrade thier network...oh wait....if they wait that long..they'll run out of money and go bankrupt....ohh well it was good while it lasted...sorry to burst ur bubble nextel users but this is thr truth and these are the facts...if u wnat i'll post u article from credible new sources stating the things i have stated in this post....

 

Codepyro, interesting I get the impression that you don't like Nextel..hmm, anyway I would like to see the articles backing up the statements you made. Well i don't foresee Nextel going anywhere for awhile, make all the comments you want, but only time will tell

 

its not that i don't like nextel..its that i hate people saying things that are completely false...saying things like nextel will have 3G connection speeds...they learn a new acronym and they all the sudden use it in inappropriate places...

article one stating skipping 3G
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/021203/tech_nextel_2.html
duplicate
http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2002/12/03/rtr811451.html
article stating 12 billion dollar debt..
http://www.forbes.com/2002/02/22/0222nextel.html <-- old article last year....jan 02 2002
http://www.thestreet.com/pf/tech/kennethli/10055629.html <--- 11/22/02

stock declining jan 8th
http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2003/01/08/rtr841196.html

push to talk by sprint or /and verizon
http://www.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20603195-0.html
http://www.thestreet.com/tech/kennethli/10033323.html

 

Nationwide Direct Connect, that's nice I guess, but how many people even care about that. They need to get things that people care about: Nice Up-To-Date phones, clear calls everywhere (not in just their best markets), cheap rate plans, and other eye-catching things like taking pictures with your phone. Nextel has none of this.

 

Nextel has good coverage. *







*You must be standing in the median of a major interstate highway, with antenna fully extended, and wearing a hooded sweatshirt

 

I Agree--- yet another reason why cingular gsm850 technology will thrive and other standards will go away.

Jay.

 

850GSM is still a beta product in my opinion, there have been no mass use of the standard yet, not to say it is not good, we just don't know yet. If other GSM frequencies are a hint at what's comming, 850 will also be just as good if not better then other GSM's.
Nextel I think will just die away eventually. Just my 0.02c