Nextel and Sprint merge

Wasn't iDEN starting to transition over to GSM anyway?

 

That is a big merger and will cause some problems for subscribers. Verizon is going from the top dog to little dog with the AT&T merger and now this. I am wondering what will be next

 

I would think that Verizon would be more of a medium-sized dog after this merger. I think (hope) that Sprint and Motorola can come to some sort of an agreement regarding their handsets. They are merging with a company whose handsets are soley supplied by Motorola... I would expect to see a few more Motos in the Sprint line-up after the merger begins.

 

I think Verizon might actually benefit from this merger. They are the only large carrier not merging with a near-sized competitor (unless a Sprint-Verizon deal somehow magically occurs). The stability of a non-merger may work to their benefit. Cingular-AT&T Wireless, and Sprint-Nextel are bound to suffer some merger issues. If Verizon keeps growing at the rate they have lately, this might end up being a non-issue. Only time will tell.....

 

I doubt that. The Cingular-AT&T merger has been going fine, it will most likely be done very slowly with little to no impact to customers. Same with Sprint and Nextel. Verizon will just continue to offer ho-hum handsets and charge the most for their service...basically, Verizon will continue to suck.

 

I absolutely have no respect for people that make comments like this regarding any carrier.
This is your opinion.
Obviously a carrier, like VZW in this case, doesn't suck for everyone since they sign up more subscribers than any other carrier and have a much, much lower churn than any other carrier(other than Nextel).

 

Would you mind letting us know about Verizon's evil plans for the future?

 

Evil plans... what are they, Cobra?

 

Hopefully I can cool the heated thread down. ANDY!

With this deal Sprint might be able to get CDMA phones before Verizon does now.
Motorola might make a few SMR(iDEN)/PCS (CDMA) phones soon?

There are many countries that use iDEN so Motorola will still make handsets until those companies go to another digital tech.

 

...My Bad, again :boxingsmi

 

Maybe for you the merger is going fine, but I have already experienced merger-related headaches from Cingular. Not enough to make me want to cancel, but it makes me glad I have Verizon (and T-Mobile, for that matter). With the exception of mobile to mobile, I have yet to experience any of the "benefits" of this merger, especially signal strength!.

Cingular certainly hasn't "Raised the Bar" for me. So at the moment, Cingular sucks.

 

Did VZW eat CWick's children?


Probably on the same day that Sprint bought Larry's family a Porsche each.

 

The merger may not be as big of a deal to Moto as many may think.

The Nextel-Moto relationship has been very rocky for awhile now, had been getting better but the gps issue this summer didn't help. Moto's exclusive contract with Nextel is also up in the near future and Nextel wasn't planning on resigning a new one.

While Moto-Sprint have not had a good relationship, Moto did release the v60v this summer which is at least something for a carrier they hadn't released anything on in awhile.

With that said, I believe that with the ptt lineup Moto has currently and the upcoming lineup of IDEN phones Moto will still be a strong source for Sprint-Nextel at least on the Nextel side espicially considering the other phone makers have little experience producing a ptt phone.

 

The only people who will be PO'd over any negative transflash changes are the hardcore bluetooth trans-memory fanatics. There are quite a few on the message boards, but they don't represent the entire population by any means. I sometimes find myself thinking that way but then realize I post in forums most cellular users never would even read. We have to learn to think outside the box sometimes. (Box meaning= "industry")

Who knows? Things change so fast. Sometimes carriers may plan on doing one thing, but due to the volatile climate the industry is in, things may go in a different direction.

The last couple of months have been shrouded with talks of what the ATT/Cingular combo will mean to subs and how it may affect VZW's plans. Now, VZW faces a new threat on the other end and may find themselves prepared to do something drastic and industry shattering. In the next few weeks, we may be hearing of a whole new Sprint/Nextel, a whole new VZW/Nextel, or a whole new VZW/Sprint giant. In any scenario, the industry will be changed.

 

If you find yourself having to convince yourself to switch, then now is not the time my friend. For me, there would have to be some huge compelling reason to ditch the carrier my whole family has including my extended family members.

I used to comparison shop for VZW. You'd be so surprised how miscellaneous charges from bargain carriers more than make up for a few less anytime minutes. Some charge more for regulatory fees, some charge for VM, some charge to change phone #'s, etc......

 

Hee...Hee...Hee...naysayers....you will believe!

I think the merger of Sprint & Nextel would be a great thing for Verizon, the PTT network is not "in a lot of trouble."

With Nextel users having to transition to new handsets with the bandwidth changes, there is going to be a good oppty. for VZW to pick up on some of those customers.

Also and most importantly if you overlay Nextel and Sprint's existing coverage maps they are pretty similar...just as if you take a highlighter and mark of the major interstates you will see the same map, true this may work well for some people, but for others that need more expansive coverage VZW is the carrier of choice.

The biggest thing that all the carriers competing against Verizon have to worry about is VZW's ability to stay focused and execute their business plan.

If this were not true you wouldn't see the mergers that are now happening.

 

Boy, those were some fun comments a nice little heated discussion doesn't hurt anyone :browani: at least I don't think so

 

Sorry Andy...suck was a bit extreme....blow big wet hairy bear maybe :biggrin: ...
I had Verizon for about a year and a half, and their service was decent...even though I could not get a good enough signal at my home to use the phone...unless I used an external antenna...all this with three different brand phones. I became disenchanted with Verizon over the course of our relationship mainly because Verizon's competitors became aggressive with their pricing and plans and Verizon with little exception just dug their heels in.

I switch to Cingular and I get a very usable signal at my home...Cingular covers all the places I go, and I do travel a lot for work..Atlanta, Charlotte NC, Columbia SC. So for me, I get better signal coverage, and plans that cost less for the same amount of mins. And, the added benefit of being on GSM where it's obvious that all the best hand sets are being developed for that technology.

Unless someone is in a location, or frequently travels to locations where ONLY Verizon covers...then Verizon does suck for everyone..because they cost more, and have a poor selection of hand sets.

 

...and speaking of PTT, Verizon's PTT has been a real cluster f**k hasn't it

 

Well If you go where I go Verizon is your only choice.
As you know CWick my hometown as no PCS so no T-mobile can't work no GSM so Cingular can't work only CDMA and AMPS and TDMA (soon to go bye bye). That is true for almost all of rural Iowa. So Verizon is a great choice there. Sprint would be an ok choice, but if you pack too many roaming minutes your phone gets shut off.
Verizon hand sets are getting better. If a person in Wisconsin likes Verizon phones you know something has changed. My roomate says Verizon handsets are twice as better as AT&T/Cingular, but that is just his opinon. Almost everyone the BIS department have AT&T/Cingular most of them hate Verizon. Most of the BIS students have Verizon or T-Mobile at Utah State. When I started here in 2001 most BIS students were with AT&T.

One question I do have CWick, some people on the WA said Verizon has a great network in Atlanta. You and others say it is overloaded and crappy. Just wanted in your opinon was it bad everywhere in the Altana Metro or just at home?

I still do agree that are grandfathers are still working on those Verizon's phones in their 90's and the next one might come out in a few months.

Totally agree on this one. Verizon was saying that they were losing customers left and right to Nextel because no PTT in 2003. They should waited until the end of 2003 to launch PTT with a choice of handsets and a better Codec. I am sure PTT did well in the areas where Verizon has service and Nextel did not. I can guess Verizon had high turnover in places where Nextel and Verizon offered PTT service. I am sure they won't make the mistake a second time in 2005.
Well hope things are going good for CWick

 

Alright, I'm going to take issue with that statement, just on the general principal that, yes, I'm on the boards, but I would hardly consider myself a "fanatic" when it comes to BT or TF. That said, I'm incredibly upset that VZW has seen fit to restrict the copying of ringtones via the TransFlash card, and thereby restrict the fair use of the copyrighted material that I own. And besides, while the "entire population" may not be up in arms about this change to the firmware, the "entire population" wouldn't have known about it anyway - VZW isn't officially supporting use of the TF card, they're not SELLING the TF card, and they're certainly not talking it up as a selling point. But for those of us who know what we wanted the phone for, and know what we're doing, this is nothing short of a sucker punch.

Just my $0.02.

 

Totally agree

 

I think Verizon's metro coverage of Atlanta was decent enough, but their coverage of the burbs was. In my particular case, I could not get a usable signal with ATT (TDMA), Sprint PCS, Verizon...but get a very good signal with Cingular and also my brother-in-law had a good enough with T-Mobile.

 

First of all, I like having nice handsets as well and some of the handsets in VZW's lineup are very good, IMO.
Yes, Cingular might cost less, but if most of the people you talk to are IN, then that's what's cheaper for you. Also, the New Cingular's network in my area(both, TDMA and GSM) still lags a bit, so yes, VZW is the only one I can use. No provider is as reliable in my area, period. Just because of the facts you presented, this carrier doesn't suck. I've had bad experiences with Sprint and T-Mobile(more with T-Mobile), wouldn't really suggest either of them to people in my area, but wouldn't go around saying they suck.

 

Alright am I missing something? Right now we can put ringtones on the transflash card. Does the new firmware change this? Is the firmware update already out? I must have been sleeping thru the threads if I missed this stuff.

 

But because they are more expensive, and have always had a limited hand set offering...what, only one Bluetooth phone? I still stand on my earlier assessment, they suck. I would only be a customer of theirs if I had no other options, and thankfully I do.

 

Sorry to wake you, Sportsman, but yeah - the new VZW firmware, while making several improvements to other functions, removes the ability to copy audio files off the TF card into the phone's memory. You can still copy photos, but not audio files.