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new wireless broadband provider?

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by greenwichave, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. greenwichave

    greenwichave New Member

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    Has anyone had any experience with a new wireless broadband provider called Clearwire < www.clearwire.com >? Broadband out of the box is something that has been promised before but seldom delivered and I was curious to see if it actually worked.
     
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    agentHibby Iowa Cellular Guru
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    Midwest Wireless does this
    They are the only ones I know that do
    I am sure there are others out there.
     
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  3. Matt

    Matt Twin girls!
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    I don't know anyone who has used it but the CEO Craig McCall was formerly with Nextel and Nextlink (now XO Communications).
     
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    Clearwire is an ISP that's delivering their service via "fixed wireless". Their accessories don't include any external house mounted antennas, so you could carry it (with built-in antenna) around with you in their coverage area. You could use it anywhere you could power it.

    COtech
     
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    We are Clearwire Dealers and love it. Do you have questions about it?
     
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    Yea, when are you expanding in New York state? Not too many choices around here, and an all wireless service would be refreshing!
     
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    That's pretty limited. But I'll check back in a few months to see if there is any noticable expansion. Like I said in my earlier post, NY state could sure use someone to shake up the existing services!
     
  9. storkus

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    I've got Clearwire right now here in Reno. I'll give you my own personal
    experiences and then some things I've heard elsewhere, but can't confirm
    myself. Again, this is my own experience in downtown Reno from my 2nd-story
    apartment.

    Pros:

    1. My speed so far has been what is promised when no interference is occuring
    and the modem is properly placed (see cons below).

    2. Customer service is available 24/7 and is knowledgable and friendly. They
    DO stumble a bit when I mention I run Linux, but I can usually translate into
    terms they can understand. :)

    3. The modem runs on 12 volts and the store says you should be able to use it
    from a vehicle, though they insist an adapter that stabilizes the voltage and
    filters out spikes be used. (There may be another reason, too--see below.)
    I've heard conflicting reports on whether it can be used why the vehicle is
    moving: the store people say yes, while others have said no. This can be
    critically important if you use VoIP like a cell phone with this service.

    Cons (and there are a lot):

    1. The price for bandwidth is higher than DSL and cable, but I don't think that
    should be a big surprise. However, unlike satellite and cellular, it won't give
    you sticker shock, either!

    2. They like to block things: ports (LOTS of them!), bandwidth eaters like file-sharing
    programs, etc. Vonage specifically doesn't work and they're adamant about
    not letting it on their network. Skype isn't supposed to work, but it does for me,
    not sure why. Azureus (bit torrent) is heavily throttled, but I found a way to get
    around it (secret below). Bottom line: if you want to do more than web
    browsing, you may want to look for something else or be prepared to do some
    network cracking and sniffing, as I did--and there's no guarantees.

    3. CONTRACT!!!!! You're stuck with them for a year, like it or not! And the grace
    period at the beginning is short. For an ISP, this is a BIG RED FLAG, and I think
    the above is why they do it.

    4. Interference: despite working on a frequency higher than the ISM band used
    for Wi-Fi (aka 802.11b+g), Bluetooth, and microwave ovens, it turns out these
    modems must be really cheaply built or I got a defective one. Specifically,
    when I turn on my microwave, the modem can barely receive; ditto if
    if someone else does as my downstream slows to a crawl for a short, random
    amount of time at random times. Wi-Max must also use an AM signal because
    placing the modem next to my CRT monitor makes it useless--it needs to be
    a couple of feet away to work. Also, as part of its fallback algorithm, if the
    interference hangs around long enough the modem will change to a different
    cell, if one's available. This is usually non-optimum and will result in a
    reduced speed even after the interference is removed. The only cure is to
    shut off the modem for an extended period (half an hour, in my experence),
    as the modem will remember the previous site it connected to otherwise.

    5. Multipath considerations: Placement of the modem for maximum speed is
    CRITICAL. Literally, moving an inch can make a huge difference. Clearwire
    modifying site placement/numbers in the neighborhood can also make a
    difference. I've had to move the modem twice now since I initially found the
    "sweet spot" for it.

    6. The link crashes on occasion for no apparent reason. I say this because my
    connection will suddenly stop working and I have to tell the computer to
    redo the DHCP negotiation as if I were cold booting (probably a lot easier to
    do in UNIX/Linux than winblows, but I don't know). I have no clue why this
    happens.

    7. Possibly related to the above, lately DHCP negotiation at boot will take a
    minimum of 3 rounds to work--i.e., I have to manually trigger the script twice
    after the computer is booted before I'll get an IP address. I've never had
    this problem before. Even stranger, the time of day you do this seems to
    make a difference.

    8. They bill directly to a credit card (can be debit)--they do NOT send out bills!
    I've read online this can be a problem (AOL-style) when you try to disconnect.

    9. Their coverage area looks a lot like a Cricket one (we have both here and the
    maps are a close match). Which means "roaming" is not possible unless
    you travel to another Clearwire area. They do not have any kind of roam
    agreements with other Wi-Max providers.

    So there you have my own experiences. As for others that have had it before
    me, they're not nearly as kind. Most of them describe their links as being flaky,
    customer service as being imbecile (I don't know if it's better recently, or has to
    do where I live for myself), and the company as being very crooked and will
    pull AOL-type stunts if you're not careful, though I haven't experienced that yet,
    either. If you DO get them, exercise the hell out of the modem before you get
    out of that grace period so you're not stuck in that contract with a service that
    won't work for you!

    Oh, finally, my secret for defeating the Clearwire firewall (at least around here):
    the secret is they have more than one gateway! And of those, they apparently
    keep one for themselves that isn't rate-limted. So, in my case, I simply change
    the final number in the IP from a "1" to a "3" for the gateway IP. And voila!
    Azureus transfers at full speed!

    Hope this helps! As for me, I still plan to ditch the service when my contract
    runs out. Maybe I'll use HSDPA or EV-DO instead--opinions?

    Mike
     

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