New PRL as of 8/1

Telecom NZ user roaming in US cellular

Hi all,
I am in urgent need of the SID for Telecom NewZealand roaming on the US Cellular Network .... Can anyone provid eme with the SID as soon as possible.
Thanks.

 

Re: Telecom NZ user roaming in US cellular

We have a US Cellular Corporation in the USA. Are you inquiring of their network? They are a regional service provider, about seventh in number of subscribers nationally. They broadcast about 150 to 175 SIDs in various markets (one per market) across the USA.

COtech

 

Hi,
Yes im talking of the US cellular network in the US.
I am given to understand that each carrier worldwide has a unique SID alloted for different regions.
So I'm looking for the SID given to TNZ(which is a NewZealand Carrier) when roaming in US Cellular.
Thanks.

 

The cell sites broadcast the SIDs assigned. The handsets are programmed with their home SID. When the handsets are receiving a SID not matching matching their home SID, the roaming indicator is turned on. The handsets don't broadcast SIDs.

CDMA phone roaming is determined by the SIDs loaded into their PRL, Preferred Roaming List. TDMA (IS-136) phone roaming is determined by SIDs loaded in their IRDB, Integrated Roaming Database. Both can be updated over the air.

I found the SID in a listing of a recent Verizon Wireless (CDMA) PRL (second in number of subscribers in the USA).
08583 [D] RM Telecom NZ (New Zealand)
You will only find this SID on air in New Zealand, and in their handsets' Home SID register. VZW users can use Telecom NZ. If VZW is willing to permit this, then the converse is likely true. Telecom NZ users could be roaming on Verizon Wireless, a competitor of US Cellular Corporation.

COtech

 

When you say you are looking for the system id "Given to TNZ" when roaming on US cellular, It seems as if you are a TNZ customer looking to roam in the USA.
There isn't "1" system ID for US cellular, as the other poster mentioned, they have over 100 different ID's in the USA depending on specific area. These ID's should already be in your fone's PRL if TNZ allows roaming on US Cellular.
Keep in mind also that in many areas, such as NY/NJ, there is no US Cellular, & you would be roaming on either Verizon or Sprint depending on TNZ's roaming agreements in these areas.......

 

@CoTech
Thanks for the information. I have already tried with 8583 on my TNZ handset, but things dont seem to work in the US Cellular network. Do you mean to say that if a TNZ handset has rights to roam in the US cellular network, it would have automatically obtained the SID for roaming, which would be different from the TNZ home SID ?

@MeatChicken
Hi,
Yes I am a TNZ customer looking to roam in the US, only on the US cellular network. What I feel from your suggestions is that, I must first ensure that TNZ has roaming agreements with US Cellular and only then should I proceed to try and configure my handset. In any case, will I have to manually enter the roaming SID or expect the handset to automatically obtain it by polling.
Thanks again.

 

A customer should never have to "manually enter" any system ID's under normal conditions.
1 - First, you have to determine if you are in a "Us cellular" signal area, as mentioned, there are many areas of the USA where UScell does not have any system.
2 - Check with TNZ , they should already have any USA roaming partner ID's in your fone's internal PRL, & if so, the fone will find any systems automatically. if not, they can load them into your fone either over-the-air, or thru a cable ....
3 - In areas where you know US cellular is either the "A" or B side system, your fone may be able to find it without the ID in the PRL if you have "Auto A/Auto B system select menu options, AND if the fone hasn't already found a preferred roam partner with the PRL, which is checked first.
I'm not sure why you are looking to roam "only" on US cellular, since in many areas of the USA there is no US Cellular, & you would be forcing your fone to have "no service" in those areas. I'm very sure TNZ has roaming agreements with other carriers, such as Verizon, Alltell &/or Sprint, that would allow the fone to work in areas such as NY, NJ, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas & other major areas where a US cellular system does not exist ....

 

goel,

I'm getting the idea that you are not in Bangalore anymore, or New Zealand. Where in the USA are you? Please give city and state, or county and state; then I could say if you are in a US Cellular Corp. licensed area.

Yes, contact your carrier Telecom NZ and learn who you may roam with (and what's the cost!). You will very likely find it less costly to buy a prepaid phone off the shelf of some retailer here, then paying an international roaming rate.

COtech

 

Hi,
I am actually an embedded systems engineer working in Bangalore and we're testing with our handsets working on TNZ, but since we are unable to work in a live network being in India, we're using a network simulator, which supports US Cellular. Hence the requirement for the SID. Considering my position, it seems the only option I have is to somehow configure my handset with the SID, NID and other parameters.
Thanks for all your suggestions.
Goel.