See, this is the kind of marketing Cingular needs. I say no more cutesy little kid ads with baloons and lollipops unless they're marketing KIC. This kind of marketing is the kind that can have an effect on people's minds. It can change Cingular's reputation from being just an another low price wireless carrier for teens to a wireless carrier adults and businessmen can rely on. This new campaign looks so much more professional than a dancing orange Jack. From the marketing professional man that I am I say good job Cingular. The "bar" campaign is good. Even though we know bars don't mean everything, most people in America think more bars means better service. People will buy into that. I see and hear people all the time comparing the level of bars on their phones to their perceived coverage. Bobolito, one of the commericals made mention that Cingular has the largest talk for free area in America. Isn't that no longer true since VZW's IN Calling now extends across most of the America's Choice Network. Also, when mentioning they have the largest digital voice and data network, what are they comparing it to? Are they including licensed areas, or areas active with cell sites owned by the company? Are they including TDMA coverage with their claims, or simply all combined current and future GSM coverage? Nice find on the commercials. Thanks.
I like their new comercials and I think they're going to do fine (Cingular). As for Verizon, their comercials are the most annoying wireless provider comercials I've ever seen.
I agree. These new ads give Cingular a much more professional look. Cingular ads no longer look like a toy company they use to portray themselves as. I guess they are targeting a more lucrative market, namely, those AT&T Business users. They also seem to target Verizon ads directly. I personally like the animation of converting the AT&T ball into Jack's head. They stole my idea! About the Cingular's largest voice/data network, I believe so. Cingular/AWS GSM network alone now covers 268M POPs. I don't think Verizon alone reaches that much unless they include roaming partners. Cingular's claim also has to do with the fact that wherever there's GSM coverage, all your digital features will work seamlessly including data no matter which carrier you are roaming on, which is not always the case on a CDMA network. About who has the largest M2M area, that's debatable. I guess we can just compare the maps. For the foreeable future, I guess Verizon will simply continue to add roaming partners as part of their IN and America's Choice networks to compete with the expansion of GSM.
The way I thought of it as is Verizon's AC map also includes their anaolog service. Cingular's GSM network is all digital, I'm assuming and they're just saying their "digital coverage" is more than VZW digital coverage. I really hope that makes sense.
That makes sense. I guess VZW cannot fully say they are "all digital" until none of their older cell sites emit any analog signal even though they've completed a nationwide roll out of 1x already. The part I was confused about is now that Cingular owns AWS, they also own their old TDMA and AMPS networks too which technically make them a digital/analog company with the excpetion of their GSM only plans. I wonder if their new maps will show the all GSM areas compared to the all TDMA areas available to their customers. I already know they will not push TDMA anymore. I wonder how fast Cingular will convert all the older TDMA and AMPS towers up in the mountains out West that have served old AWS customer so well for the past several years???
The maps and offerings you see today are all GSM. They are trying not to mix TDMA/AMPS with GSM anymore. So the comparisons are basically between their GSM offerings and Verizon's CDMA.
I totally agree that these are good ads. Cingular should have been harping their coverage well over a year ago imo. Now...if they would only fix a massive dead spot in our capital...ATT managed to not cover this area too! It only includes Dover Downs and our mall...the two biggest attractions in the whole darn county! "We do not guarantee indoor coverage"--CIngular We'll I cannot guarantee I'll stay with Cingular then! It's just rediculous, they get good service outside these places, zip inside, and it's starting to bother me. If every other provider thought it was imporant to get coverage inside, so should they. I'm going to write them and complain, hey they are #1 now, no excuses for such obvious holes.
well now in reference to the maps.. dont' forget to include attw maps in with cingular's now which will cover some of those "no service" areas... huge help
I noticed in today's paper the Cingular ad for 1000 Anytime mins is expiring on the 15th, seems to coincide with the news that new plans are coming out on this day. I still don't see anything on the Cingular Ad's about them being part of AT&T yet, but do see it on the AT&T ad's as of today.
Wow, those maps are B.S. Cingular, Verizon, AT&T... none of them have service in Manhattan, KS (zip code 66502) and yet, The MHK is shown to be covered on the maps. Cingular probably uses T-Mobile's system here as they have native coverage in The MHK but they are the only GSM provider who does... although CellularONE-Western Wireless could have GSM roaming set up here, I don't know. The other carriers with service here are Alltel, Sprint & Nextel.
boblito, did you see the front section of the Star Ledger today? Cingular has a full page ad about the merger with AT&T & the new "Allover network" using skyscrapers as the bars. It is just showing how close it is getting to the New Cingular for the 15th.
Same for Iowa you can't get GSM in Albia or Centerville or Waukon IA. According to the Cingular map you are covered. It is not possible to have GSM is those areas yet because there is no PCS in those areas and all Cellular providers in Iowa are CDMA. Cingular is getting close to having coverage simmular to America Choice. I am sure there are a few cities where there is GSM and no CDMA or free Roam on Americas Choice plan.
Hmmm....maybe they didn't update the zip code part of the website? THAT is weird....the region map for Kansas shows good coverage in Manhattan. Is that AT&T tower coverage? I would call CS and get that clarified.....don't they have those precise maps now that they will share with anyone? Anyhow....here is the region map link...Kansas Region
No, AT&T has never had service here and neither has Cingular. I can understand showing this area covered on the map if you can use your minutes here while roaming on T-Mobile or whoever but the map seems to indicate that this area is native CingulAT&T coverage when it is not. If they had licenses to operate networks here they would actually have to operate them, right?
I punched in your zip code Rancid on the home page of WA.com and it shows Cingular wireless is licensed, along with AT&T as well as TMobile. Don't know what is up with that :headscrat So this region map may reflect roaming partner TMobile's coverage. I thought all the maps now show native and roaming partner coverage now, combined....I could be wrong. That may be what the orange area around Manhattan is.
ATT has really detailed maps of their coverage...I'll see if I can find them on hofo. Maybe that'll help with this whole "its not covered, but it's on the map" thing. I looked at the detailed ATT maps. It shows coverage in Manhattan, KS. T-Mobile has coverage in your area. It actually looks very good, but doesn't go too far out of the town. If you give me an intersection or something I could look that up if you want.
Are those detailed AT&T maps REALLY detailed like the T-Mobile ones? or are they just a blown up version of the traditional maps we get on their website?