Need App Store Help.

You have notifications turned on? The badge should show how many are ready for update.


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The app store checks for updates when you launch it. It also checks automatically once a week.

You will see a red circle in the appl icon telling you how any updates are available. Similar to the mail icon.

In settings you must have notifications turned on. Its all in the manual, an online bookmark in safari.


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Such as this below. in iOS 4 it does not download unless you allow it....but it tells you that an update is available via the red number. Again automatically once a week or every time you open the app store. Your Macbook Air, via itunes would also check for you.

If you have an iPhone and iPad there are options to keep both up to date automatically, that is what you buy for one, is available for free for the other and they will be kept in synch, if you wish.

Of course, it is always possible that the iPad operates differently.... I don't have an iPad!

P.S.: sorry but having gotten around to fool around with my webbie cam and my wife's iPad for you.

 

'Automatic Download' Over-the-Air app updates is rumored to be coming to iOS 5.

Source: iTunes Leaks 'Automatic Download' Over-the-Air Updates in iOS 5 [Updated] - Mac Rumors

 

Over-the-Air updates for applications has been in effect for iPhones OS since inception, years ago.

I think this refers to the actual iOS updates, which to date is only done via synching with iTunes and also to 'auto' downloading, without having to go to the app icon on the phone and selecting 'update now'.

In either case, the current situation is that the 'badge' displays that updates are available to download.

I do think there has been some bugs in the actual implementation of the badge system. Sometimes the badge comes and goes. But for the most part it works.

 

Maybe for the iPhone OS it has, but I have "notifications" turned on for my iPad 2 and the only way I can get app updates is by going into the App store and then there will be a number by the Updates tab telling me how many programs have new updates available for them. I then select Update All if there are multiple updates available.

If this has indeed been in effect since its inception, then the person that work the article is wrong (as well as other sites that state the same thing). Here is a quote from the link that I posted above:

 

I think they wrote it badly. As you state above, you don't have to 'synch' via a cable to get the updates...you just hit update and it is done via WiFi ( or 3G, if you have that). To me, synching is done with a wire...while 'updating' is done over 3G/Wifi, which has always been the case. Even for iPads.

I think the difference is 'automatic'. Meaning that you can chose to let updates occur without your decision in iOS5. Currently, it is only done manually, but still over-the-air.

I think it is just badly written and confusing to someone that doesn't have iOS.

Regardless, it doesn't resolve Charylee's question, in the end, regarding iOS4.x

 

Here is a screen shot from my on line iPhone user guide.



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The iPhone and iPad are certainly different devices and have different iOS to handle that. I'm on 4.3.3.

I would not have thought such trivial things like calculator or application update notifications would be so different though. I'm not sure that iOS 5 will completely unite them.

Good luck! I guess the iPhone users will not be of much help to you.


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Charlyee, my experience mirrors yours. The App Store never checks in the background for updates like the Android Market or like BB App World, it will only check for them if you open the App Store.

I also have iOS 4.3.5. I think if you want to unlock your iPhone (without the gevey SIM), you cannot go above 4.3.3, which might be a reason why someone would forgo the more recent updates.

 

Yes, it is the same iOS for iPad and iPhone (hence no fragmentation, ) Some applications are the same for iPad or iPhone ; some applications come in 2 versions. Clearly, the ones that are the same app for both (like Fandango), have internal coding like, " If I'm an iPad, then do this; if I'm an iPhone do that'. The displays for Fandango are quite different for each. And likewise for the iOS.

Very hard to imagine they took out push notifications for app store for iPad versions though, don't you think?

Question: Do you get any notifications whatsoever (besides mail)? I just looked at my wife iPad it had displayed 6 apps updates available, and without opening the app store, it changed to 13!

Check the Apple forums, there is some discussions about the notification system stopped working on the iPad, and some fixes..some not. In the Apple support section, it states:

If the device is connected over Wi-Fi and is still unable to receive notifications, the Wi-Fi network you're using might have a firewall that is blocking port 5223. This port must be open to TCP traffic for notifications to work.

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Here is a screen shot of our iPad, showing the update badges without opening the app store. Now I don't know what is going on and perhaps these updates came from her iPhone (which does work with push notifications) and since the iPad is set to auto download apps from other devices, maybe it came from there. IDK.

Seems like something is off here. The push notification system works pretty well, for example with WhatsApp, Facebook, twitter, etc.

 

I'm not JB on my iPhone 4, never have been. Last night I upgraded to 4.3.5, and just now, at 12:35pm, EST, I got a notification (red circle with a 1 inside) on the App Store icon that I had a new update available. Was on 3G, not WiFI. Opened the app store, and an update for Shazam was shown.

The push notification seems to work fine. I searched the web and did not come up with overwhelming complaints about notifications and the app store in particular. There were some, esp with the upgrade to 4.3, but not a lot and in some cases, the user found the problem.

Based on what I've seen, it sounds more like a carrier issue, or wifi issue, perhaps required resetting the phone, and a bug from Apple, as a opposed to just being programmed not to give push updates in the app store. The push notifications work the same as for twitter, etc. and no reason for it not to work for the app store too.

Here is a recent iPad notification problem that was resolved. here the App store, or any app, doesn't check in 'background' rather it gets a pushed notice from Apple servers. It of course depends upon the app developer putting in the right coding too.

iPad notification problem resovled:

"Well, I've basically narrowed it down to the router. I get push notifications (on my iPad) at work when connected to the wifi there, but at home it doesn't work. I have already opened port 5223, and that didn't work at home. So not quite sure what to try next. I will check tonight whether the notifications work at home now that the push settings have been downloaded correctly. Fingers crossed.

Well that really is weird. Push notifications now work at home. All I can assume is there were problems connecting to the push server to download an authentication key. When I connected on my work wifi I obviously got that key and now it works.

If anyone else has this problem I would suggest trying to connect to another wifi network. 3G iPads probably won't have this problem as you will get the key over cellular data.

Very weird problem, but my notifications are up and running."

 

I can confirm, that after one week, my iPhone, running the latest iOS, gave me notification that 9 new applications had updates available, without opening the application app itself.

A week ago last Saturday, both my iPhone and my wife's iPad had app updates available and downloaded. Over the next week, I deliberately did not open the Apple Application icon. I waited and nothing appeared. Of course, I have no clue if any updates were available at all.

Saturday passed, and this morning at 4:30am Sunday, still no indication from the 'badge' that any updates were available. And then at 5:25am, 9 new update notifications appeared as a Badge on the Apple App icon. So, as stated in the manual, it did indeed notify of an update about 1 week after the last update, automatically.

On the iPad, nothing yet. However it was turned completely off (didn't realize this), so I don't know if that influences the 'clock'. I compared the iPhone updates to the apps on the iPad...and they didn't overlap...meaning the iPad didn't have those applications on them, so this could be another reason. Or, perhaps the iPad operates differently. I'll wait another week.

I'm running the iPhone on 3G via a ATT macrocell, and on WiFi using an Apple AirPort Extreme.

Now this is not the same as automatically updating the applications, and then notifying you that it was done: In iOS4 Apple only tells you that updated applications are available, and lets you decide whether or not to update them. I think, as Gamer pointed out, in iOS5, there will be more options.

I'm pretty happy to be given the decision on what to do.

 

The app store checks for updates when you launch it.

 

Certainly under iOS 5, the app store updates without launching on our iPad 2. But it also seemed to work under the old iOS.

Did you notice any changes, Charlyee?

 

I also don't see any update notifications, however, it may be because I am not patient enough. It appears, upon closer reading, that the app store will notify you once per week if you don't open the app or iTunes yourself for 7 days. I don't think I have ever waited 7 days between opening the app store, however. In that case, it would never automatically notify me because I am always checking it myself within the 1 week window.

FWIW, I think that is pretty stupid. There is no reason the app store can't function just like the Android Market in this regard.

 

It is really a mute point; I don't think it is stupid. If one is checking the app store less than 7 days for other reasons, it really doesn't manner, in your case. I hardly ever open the app store, unless I'm looking for a new app., or an app is malfunctioning.

Given that it takes weeks for a developer to update or do bug fixes, I can wait a another week for it.

Just my opinion and way of working.

It is definitely working for me. My wife never checks for apps (that is my job), and the iPad was completely off for most of the week (we lost power again for 7 days in CT from Storm Alfred).

It don't think it is running in background. That list of apps at the bottom of the screen is more of a history of what you have run in the past, and a way to switch between apps. Only some apps may operate in 'background' almost all close out completely. You can see this is the case when the same app is listed several times in chronological order. It is Apple's way of multitasking, and aids their good battery life. I almost never 'x' these out, but certainly shutting down the iPad will do it also.

Perhaps the apps are synching with the MacBook and iPhone, under the new iOS.

Anyhow it is working for us, sorry not for you. We had 10 apps to update, and it is good for me to look at her iPad and see the number of apps available for update automatically.

On my 4S now, and it is FAST!

 

From Apples support pages.

Understanding Multitasking and recently used apps

Double-clicking the Home button displays a list of recently used apps. These apps are not necessarily actively in use or open. Most applications are not taking up system resources when running in the background and instantly launch when you return to them. Certain tasks or services can continue to run in the background, and you can determine most by checking the status bar:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4211

I can go months without 'X'ing' out apps. My memory is that I can have a long list of apps, some that repeat again after x'ing them out in the process. But that is off topic. I don't think the app store is running in background.

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