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My review of my iPhone 3G

Discussion in 'APPLE iPhone, iPad Tablets and all iOS Devices' started by viewfly, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. viewfly

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    Congrats! Yeah, when they say iPhone plans start at $$, they are including the $30 already. The data plan is mandatory.

    I did the same as you. Had a Family plan already with unlimited SMS for all ($30). They have to do some computer software junk, but basically, all stays the same in the end, and your plan stays the same cost as before, only $30 is added for the Data for your iPhone. I got waived the $18 resign fee too. Hey I've been a customer since '95, I got a little something.

    I had 3G on all day yesterday in my rural/suburban area of CT. Had pretty good signal strength mostly, but it would switch to 2g now and then. Seems to work as expected.

    P.S. I will be off the forums for 1week plus, starting this afternoon. Time for some R&R, and will be out of phone service - hard to believe - unless I find some free wifi
     
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    Yeah, it sounds like editing files on your Treo is what you need. BTW, I know this has been available for a while, but with my 6131 having an FM radio, I didn't need it.

    Just downloaded AOL radio and the NPR link for mobile phones. Now I can listen to NPR and the local NPR broadcasts, plus WCBS stations across the nation (AM too). So now I have my radio, but this time FM and AM.

    I'm one happy camper!!
     
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    I agree with you hf1khal. For me, To Do lists were invented because the tiny square box on wall or desk calendars were too small to write a daily list of things to do on a certain day. Plus walking around with a wall calendar is impractical.

    But today, with pda's, phones smart or dumb, there is no limit on how many reminders, meetings, appointments one can place in a calendar...and still carry it with you. After all,most 'to do' lists are meant to happen on or by a certain day...so might as well place it in the calendar instead of spread out over many places.

    vf.
     
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    hf1khal,viewfly, maybe I use my task and/or To-Do list differently from you. Some line items contain descriptions, next steps etc, more like a project planning. I wouldn't want to clutter up my calendar with so much information. I also use notes a lot & this doesn't synch either.

    I was with two iPhone owners at the same table last night, interestingly they had been talked out of the upgrade by the Apple Store claiming the only advantage would be data speed & GPS neither of which they cared about.

    I found this rather irresponsible & ignorant on the part of the store; they kept borrowing my Treo to make calls, another person with the SLM had no problems receiving calls.

    I did try to tell them that an upgrade would help the reception situation based on what you two had said, but I don't think I got through.

    Looking forward to more reviews. :)
     
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    I've been told that one of the things Apple improved with the 3G version is the antenna, resulting in better reception even in the absence of the 3G signal.
     
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    I'm like hf1khal and viewfly. I prefer to use the calendar for everything instead of Tasks or To-Do lists. I even stopped using the Alarm Clock in my V9 in favor of the Calendar which is much more flexible. Looking forward to join you guys on the iPhone bandwagon in a few weeks or whenever stock replenishes. I'm not in a rush since I'm waiting for the jailbreaking tools to become full featured and relatively bug free.
     
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    Yeah, normally I'm one of the guys that waits--usually for the price to go down. But considering I'd been out of my VZW contract for a year and the price was $199, I wanted to be one of the early guys for once. Of course all the guys with 2G iPhones are like, "Hmmph, I've had an iPhone for a year!"
     
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    I have to say I've been impressed with how well the first iPhone (at least mine anyway) holds on to a signal. I haven't had a dropped call yet on it. Though when the signal is low, I get the voice break-up, but calls haven't dropped, especially since T-Mobile's signal is marginal where I live.

    I recently added a third party add-on where instead of the signal meter, I have the AT&T globe. The blue lines in the globe color in the better the signal. When there's no signal, you see a globe with faded lines. It's pretty cool. I got this from Cydia, which was put on my phone when I unlocked it from iLiberty.
     
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    I used to work in an office building with a problematic reception, there were several cubes with very low signal. We ran a few tests side-by-side with a number of different phones. Nokia 6820 & iPhone would not be able to hold on to it, while Nokia 3100, 6131, 6230 and SE K850i all passed. Unfortunately, can't do a side-by-side between iPhone and iPhone 3G as I'm no longer working there :(
     
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    Fortunately, most of the L.A. area I'm in has good to excellent reception for T-Mobile, so I've yet to run into a problem with reception on the iPhone. So far so good with the phone.
     
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    LOL, strange as it may sound, T-Mobile is the only carrier with decent signal in that office. All our troubles started when the roaming agreement between AT&T and T-Mobile got dissolved, until then we were camping on T-Mobile :)
     
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    Good luck guys!! Still on vacation but I can say there is good 3G in Puerto Rico, after the cruise ship turned off their sat relay. Some good posts here. Posted by iPhone of course.

    Can't believe how long it is taking Apple to restock.
     
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    I'm happy to report that my iPhone did well in the Caribbean, including the aGPS. II was somewhat lost in Old San Juan and the GPS found me on the street that I was on. We walked to a restaurant following the google maps display for a bit.

    I'm definitely not getting nearly any of the problems I've read from other posters, in other forums.

    I really enjoyed the ipod feature of this phone, when I was in 'airplane' mode.
     
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    Thanks, and by the way, I am with you when it comes to about experiencing the issues. So far (knock on wood) all has been good and can't wait to use on my trip early next month
     
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    Glad to hear of it.


    I did find a problem with google maps that causes the phone to go to the home screen today.

    If, while in 'map mode' I drop a bookmarked pin, and then try to go to 'hybrid' or even satellite mode, google maps crashes and the phone goes to 'home' screen.

    If I remove the pin, then it works fine. A problem for Google to work on.
     
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    Hmm that is weird, I have been actualy doing that on many occasions and usingit to mark certain points. I go back and forth between the 3 options with the Droped Pin. Try this, go to settings, general and shutoff location services. then to a reset (hold the home key down and press the the off button untill the white Apple appears then let go). Once it reboots, go to Maps and it will ask you for the location service to be turned on and say OK and try it at that point. Also, check the firmware version (settings, General, About and it will be the 7th entry) that you have, it it is not the version of 5A347, then I would advise that you upgrade. Connecting to itunes will tell you that you are up to date but in reality you are not and to get the update, click on the restore button and that will download and update the firmware. Let me know if any of the above helped.
     
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    I have the older firmware version, but the problem went away on it's own when I tried again. I'll just see how it goes for now. Something buggy there. This returning to 'Home' screen happens very rarely, but it has happened in Safari too. There must be some software rules not being followed properly. It's not a pain, since it happens rarely and I can recover without restarting the phone,but I'm sure a fix will come up.
     
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    I've found this iPhone speed test the most reliable so far. That means the numbers are consistent from test to test.

    iPhone speedtest from Speed Test - dslreports.com

    I'm getting 800 to 1400 kbps here in CT with only 1 bar on 3G.

    I've found speeds tests from these two sites to be real dogs:

    Iphone Speed Test Home always gives the same number ~ 400kbps

    http://testmyiphone.com/ was very flaky and would just hang up half the time. Results were inconsistent.
     
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    Sometimes speed tests are affected by the networks in between you and their server. I just tested iphonespeedtest.com, (the one that you say always gives the same number ~ 400kbps) and I got 1599kbps from my computer. But even from my laptop using the 3G card I always get somewhere between 350kbps and 500kbps. Weird.
     
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    Some more on the reviews. I'm still really enjoying the phone. Looking at some of the unmentionable forums, I don't have near some of the wild problems they are having. Fingers crossed for that, but they should be able to get most of them fixed via their warranty.

    Using the dsl speed test in an earlier post, my speeds are more consistent and that software less buggy. Even at rush hour, I'm getting 600 to 1400 kbps. I get this with1 or 5 bars, so 3G seem to be working ok.

    It does appear pretty often that when I open 'contacts' it takes a while for the screen to be ready for scrolling. It's a little annoying when I'm in a rush, but I don't understand why it does that. Is it because I have too many contacts in there? The same is true when opening the 'settings' icon. It can take longer for that to open than say safari, mail, etc. Perhaps it is collecting data and not ready to display it.

    Regarding cases, I'm really enjoying the Sena cases (thank you Charlyee :) )The Ultra Slim series is just perfect for my pants or shirt pocket. It adds almost no bulk, but protects everything. It fits tight at first, but will stretch within the week. SENA CASES :: APPLE iPHONE 3G ULTRA SLIM POUCH

    I also use the Crystal Film full screen protector. It works great and makes me feel secure about damaged in my pocket, etc. Available from Apple Apple Store (U.S.) - Power Support Crystal Film - iPhone It fits fine with the Sena case.

    For days when I'm using the phone a lot and don't want to keep pulling it out of the Sena case, the Incipio product is just perfect. I protects the back and sides; I don't use the screen protector included, since the Crystal Film is a better product. The dermaSHOT line can be found at myIncipio.com | iPhone 3G Accessories

    The Incipio is not found in the Apple stores (att has them), and it adds little bulk compared to the other similar products. With the dermaSHOT and the Crystal Film, I feel the phone is perfectly protected in my pocket from dust and nicks. Adds a firm grip, allows access to all ports. Of course don't drop it from feet onto the ground...it's not meant for that.

    P.S. one thing I do find annoying. Too much use of the home key. For example: if I am reading mail, then want to go to safari (via the home key) and wish to go back to mail, I need to go Home first. Why can't there be a CRTL+Tab option or the sort? Besides being a pain, it is just more wear and tear on the one mechanical key! I was hoping to avoid that. sort of like the 'end' key on most phones...why is this necessary?
     
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    Because Apple designed the iPhone to run only one application at a time. So you need to close safari before you can get into mail and viceversa. They claim that allowing more than one app at a time, can open the potential for OS instability. They would need to build an interface to switch between apps, like a taskbar or some other way, which will take some screen space. So either way, there's a price to pay and Apple elected to have you press the Home button a lot of times.
     
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    I should be getting my Black 16GB iPhone tommorow, FINALLY!!! After ordering it 10 days ago, although at&t's Direct Fufillment is getting faster, I'm #7 in my queue for my store. Hoping to pick it up tommorow morning.
     
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    Alienware51: I hope you enjoy it!

    Bobolito: Hmmm, but why not make it a software key? That is my main complaint. I can see the day, 2 years from now, when that button starts to stick.

    But I can run the iPhone's iPod in background while the 'home' key will allow me to open any other application: safari, make a phone call, weather, etc. Of course while on the phone, I can use the safari web browser. I just don't like using the hardware key back to the 'Home' page, when I really want to go back and forth between say ipod and safari directly. It does work, both appls will function, but it is clumsy how it is done.

    I just tried this: in safari I started to open WA forums, then I went to mail and read email. Then went back to safari and the WA forum home page was fully open. Running wifi and 3G. So are the running the same time? Seems like it.
     
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    I believe it is something similar to how Android will handle memory management. When you switch from one app to another, the app will save its current state so that the next time you open it, it opens up where it left off.

    Of course, there are some apps that are allowed to run in the background, but that privilege is only allowed to the phone and the ipod apps because Apple feels those are essential apps. Everything else is treated as non-essential. If Apple wanted to have several apps run at the same time, I think it would be nice if they implemented task switching by simply holding the "Home" key which would pop up a small list showing the apps running and then you could touch to select the one you want. I think that would be a clean and simple way to do it without any side effects, like a taskbar that takes screen space, or adding another hardware button. Frankly, I don't see Apple adding another button to the iPhone.
     
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    software 2.0.1 is released, run the update in itunes. So far the signal is a bit better, responsivness is also better. Less lag when opening contacts and so on. Also Safari flips faster to landscape mode and vice versa. Lets see if this makes a diference on battery life too.
     
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    Adding a bar to the same level of reception doesn't mean signal is a bit better. It just looks better to calm complaints.
     
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    To be honest I agree with you. I still have not been able to test teh hand off between 3G and Normal as that has caused dropped calls. But I can say at least it makes it even with teh Tilt and V9 when it comes to signal bars. Now here is the best that I can say about this phone, with no bars showing on my phone when in a stand still situation and I go a call which was going for 30 minutes and the call was completed with no issues what so ever, well lets put it this way, once in a call the bars jump dramaticaly to almost full. I take this bar reporting thing as part of the sleep function in the iphone and in all honesty it never bothered me as long as my calls were clear (which they were all the time). What mattters the ost is they fixed the lag when it comes to the contacts which was pretty long for me (as I have all my direct business contacts in there and they total over 600 with mulitpple numbers for each). Now in one second the phone is redy for searching the contacts.
     
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    I did the firmware update also. Got the same results, faster contact scroll, etc. I may even have a hint that the bar/dBm map may have been reworked...seems like more bars for the same 3G dBm reading.

    I made an interesting discovery yesterday. Normally I stay in 2G because the 3G signal in this building is not the best. I'm in the city of Boston right now. Outside, both 3G and 2G give the same dBm readings. Inside this glass and metal building, even though I have an entire glass wall (which may be metalized for thermal loss reasons) that is not true: the 3G signal is about 14db less than the 2G signal.

    That seems pretty consistent; 3G inside is not as great as outside. Could have to do with 3G being only at 1900Mhz. Some day att will have 3G at 850 as well. Regarding speed, things have gotten better. At 8 AM today, measured 1000 kbps. Much better at rush hour than before.

    Interesting.
     
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    Yesterday, I noticed that typing an email to gmail or earthlink was very sluggish. So too for scrolling in contacts. I didn't remember being that way before the upgrade. Not really sure.

    Anyhow, after struggling with it, I re-powered the phone. That fixed the problem. I guess the key is to see if the contacts slow down again. SMS and other direct input (like the email address) was speedy however. It was only typing text into the email that was sluggish.
     
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    From playing with a couple of iPhones, it seems that anything Safari's working on will continue to work in the background. I especially noticed this in google maps - Safari would continue to load maps and get a GPS lock while I was in other programs. Bobolito mentioned that not all apps may be allowed to run in the background, but Safari is the one that you'd probably want to keep going.

    Also from my experiments with friends' phones, indoor 3g reception isn't as good, especially when in large complexes such as university medical centers (purely hypothetical, of course).

    From a prospective iphone buyer (contract expires in October), thanks to all for this very informative thread!
     

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