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Review My Quest For The Perfect Windows Tablet

Discussion in 'Mobile Devices for All Other Operating Systems' started by charlyee, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. charlyee

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    Coming soon!


    Sent from my Surface 3.
     
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    :cyclops: I'll be keeping an eye out for it.
     
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    @JFB,

    How do I edit the tittle of the thread? I do know how to spell "Windows", I promise. :D


    @CDG Near the top right of the 1st post > Thread Tools > Edit Thread
    I fixed it. ~JFB
     
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    I have been looking for a compact Windows tablet/Netbook for a while and finally decided to get something:

    June 21 - went to Best Buy to look at the Asus T100TAF, and got talked into buying the Asus X200, a full netbook.

    June 22 - it was too unwieldy to be used as a portable reading device and too underpowered to be used as a small laptop. Exchanged it for the T100TAC

    June 23 - June 29, the T100 met all my expectation except how the tablet fit into the keyboard, it had some play in it and the tablet couldn't detect the keyboard from time to time. This got more and more irritating, so I finally decided on replacing it.

    June 30 - Purchased the Lenovo Yoga 2, it came with a BT keyboard and a very innovative way of docking and impressive battery life, two days with continuously playing. Returned the T100 the next day.

    This one however, had a irritating habit of "losing" BT connection with the keyboard, and I needed to turn the powero the keyboard on and off to re-connect.

    Everything else about it was great and so I was willing to put up with it until a driver update came about, since it was a pretty common problem.

    July 11 - The Lenovo Miix arrived at the same price but included an USB port and 64gb instead of 32 gb storage memory.

    So back to BB and purchased the Miix. Hated it from the time I took it out of the box, very cheaply made and the metal edge of the docking station was rough and unfinished. The keys were smaller and shallow.

    July 12 - returned the Miix and decided to stay with the Yoga 2. As I was leaving BB, The Surface 3 caught my attention and I couldn't stop thinking about it.

    The surface 3 was more than twice as expensive as the Yoga 2, for 32gb more memory, a faster processor and an USB port, So I decided I couldn't afford it.

    July 13 - Purchased the Surface 3 and a black keyboard cover :D.

    I will write a review after I use it some more, in the meantime it appears to do everything faster and better. The build quality is excellent and a very innovative direct connect keyboard that has yet to give any trouble.

    I still have my Yoga 2 but it's going back later this week, provided Best Buy doesn't lock their doors when they see my "Little Blazing Red" turn into their parking lot. :D
     

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    You should rename the thread, "Me And My Toys" :giggle:

    I was working downtown this Spring by a Microsoft store and I had a hard time resisting the Surface 3, but my 3 year old Samsung Laptop still runs like a champ.
     
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    Looking forward to the Surface 3 review.

    The Surface Pro has always been tempting, but the price for the one I want and lack of LTE has made me hold off on the purchase. Also my 1.5 year old upgraded Toshiba laptop is still super quick.

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    Amusing timeline there. :LOL:
    Does the Surface 3 have Windows 10? I happened across QVC last night and saw them selling a Dell laptop running 10.
     
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    @JFB

    Nope it didn't come with 10, looking forward to when that gets rolled out at the end of the month.

    The Yoga 2 went back today and I took the boxes for the Surface 3 downstairs, so getting there.

    I haven't had Windows for personal use for a very longtime and the last I used Windows was 7 a little over two years back. I am actually liking Windows 8/8.1 unlike a lot of people I know.

    I don't want to start any OS wars but the Surface is a refreshing change over iOS/OSX for me.
     
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    Don't be so quick to jump on Windows 10 if you use the Surface as a tablet. Lol


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    @budney,

    Thanks much, I won't, and if I do guess who will be fielding all my questions and listen to me griping. :D

    Why is that though? I do use as a tablet a good 25% of the time.
     
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    Most of the gestures that make the tablet experience on 8.1 fluid are gone on 10. While thing have improved with the preview builds, 10 feels more like a desktop OS with a tablet mode slapped on.


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    @budney: Regarding " 10 feels more like a desktop OS with a tablet mode slapped on."

    That's a bummer. I have an HP Envy with touchscreen. I guess I won't be upgrading.
     
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    Here are my initial impressions after 3 days, most of that time was spent in learning 8.1 and brushing up on my Windows knowledge, thanks to the help provided by "budney".

    Out of the box I was impressed with the material and workmanship. The tablet is made out of a magnesium alloy and smooth and cool to the touch. The tablet is 10.8" so this the largest of my tablets. It is relatively light, the same weight as the iPad2 1.33 lbs,, but more square in shape. The squarish shape is more comfortable to hold in the landscape mode. The keyboard is a direct connect and needs to be purchased separately, at a steep price of $130. The keyboard though is very well made with large and accurate key press and a trackpad. It is also backlit. The back is suede like material that makes the device look classy and professional when the cover is closed.

    I turned on the power and immediately loved the display of 1920x1280, it was bright and crisp at the default 50% setting and auto.

    It also comes with a year's subscription of Office 365.

    So far I like it and is a keeper, it is rapidly becoming my go to laptop.

    Here are screenshots of my Desktop and Start Screen. More to follow :)


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    I made one "last" exchange, went from the 2gb RAM/64gb storage to 4gb RAM and 128gb. The price difference was only $60 and well worth it.

    Something disturbing in the way the person at the counter said "see you next week". :LOL:
     
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    :ROFLMAO: That's pretty funny.
     
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    Today's achievement was hiding the recycle bin and deleting the name from it.

    Screenshot (3).png

    Learned a couple of shortcuts as well:
    Windows+D - brings up the desktop.
    Windows+C - brings up the charms.
     
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    I am into week number 2, and still very happy with it. Windows 8.1 is perfect on it and I will be staying away from Windows 10 upgrade for the time being.
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    As far as the device itself goes it has performed flawlessly and without hiccups. Interestingly the only problem I have had so far with it was posting on this forum where there was a lag of about 3 letters. It happened a couple of times so far. Not sure what to make of that.

    I am very impressed with flawless synching using iCloud for Windows, had no idea that Apple and MS even talked with each other let alone so well.
     
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    Next Wednesday, July 29th, you can get Windows 10. I am signed up for it.
     
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    I will be waiting to install it on my desktop and laptop until I know that proper drivers are released. It won't be going on my tablet, as I am still not impressed with the Windows 10 RTM that is on it right now. I will be rolling back o 8.1.


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    That's a good point. When I upgraded my Samsung Laptop from Windows 7 to Windows 8. It took quite a while for them to get my Broadcom wireless network drivers right. It was constantly disconnecting and I used an old USB wireless adapter for about 3 months.
     
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    Here is a related article.
     
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    Two weeks with a Surface 3 and still loving it.

    I found a minor negative - there is a charging light on the power cord at the USB end, this light is white. I was expecting it either turn off or change to green or flash or some such thing when the device was fully charged.

    Apparently that's not the intent of it, all it shows is that if the light is on it is plugged in. So the light never changes, I believe the only device that I have that does this and not to my liking.
     
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    Since I have 3 tablets with 3 different OS I have been wanting to do a comparison between the three of them. However, this is turning out to be quite difficult.

    Only the Asus Memo Pad and the iPad can truly be compared because they both have mobile OS.

    The Surface 3 on the other hand has all the properties of a tablet but its a full blown Windows 8.1 so closer to MBP except the hardware.

    So I am quite unsure of how to do the comparison.


    In the meantime I did make on more change, I switched the black keyboard cover for the dark blue one and with my blue themed desktop and start menu, it looks sharp.

    Interestingly the blue is very close in shade to the blue Apple case, so if I had that instead of the brown it would be really sharp. No I am not getting the blue Apple case. :LOL:
     
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    Just read this thread. Thanks for all the input. Been wanting a Surface Pro for a few months now to replace the MacBook Air I carry around the office. The Air is small and light with great battery life, but I am not of a fan of OSX. I have been holding out for the Surface Pro 4 but if a release date does not get announced soon, I will have to go with the 3.
    Still waiting for Windows 10 to land on my ThinkPad running 8.1.
     
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    Hello, long time :)

    Thank you I am really enjoying my Surface 3. A part of me wanted the Surface Pro to replace the MBP as well. I don't care for OSX either or Safari for that matter. Lately I have been using the Mac only for video processing however with every update of iMovie it gets worse and I am about ready to give up. Maybe sometime next year I will look into switching from the MBP.
     
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    Today was the last day to return/exchange my device, and I never even thought of doing so. I am really enjoying it even with Windows 10.

    It is great having a full OS on a tablet that can also serve as a small and lightweight laptop. I may look into traveling with it next time.
     
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    I just realized, I have four new devices in the last 6 months, or at least four that I have kept. So here is what I feel about them.

    They are in descending chronological order.

    iPhone 6s - like it.
    Kindle Voyage - love it.
    Surface 3 - like it.
    Asus MemoPad - intensely dislike it.

    Disclaimer-this is just my opinion and I am definitely not comparing similar devices, so please no OS wars.


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    If you want to donate the Asus device and possibly get a tax writeoff, check into local charities. Maybe even a local K-8 school. Then there are retirement centers for elderly that prefer simple, easy to use and don't need a bunch of power. Or, finally, some under privileged family you personally know with kids that would love such a device.
     
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    Maybe you should pop over to XDA for a custom ROM for the MemoPad :cool:
     
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