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My foray into Windows Phone

Discussion in 'Microsoft Windows Mobile Phones' started by QLR, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. QLR

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    Well, I decided to get a new toy... a Nokia Lumia 521. I will update as I go along.

    This phone is serving as a backup update for my prepaid phone. My previous prepaid device started to fail me. In my area, T-Mobile is building up coverage in the "4G"/LTE arena. The ole flip kept falling back to 2G (and dying). If you are on a legacy 3G or on a 2G only device, I'd suggest that you at least get a newer device. Sometimes, a device update is all what is needed.

    Reception is the same as the Nokia of the 90's. Signal everywhere thus far. Sound quality is passable.

    Windows Phone platform is solid enough. I just wish there were more apps... and Google and Microsoft played better together.

    Windows and Nokia meshes well on here. The Lumia 521 has 1Ghz single core processor and it mostly hums along fine. I had the phone reboot on me once (it is a smartphone and I don't think it is a negative... it isn't buggy)

    The screen is 4" diagonal with bezels (i.e. no edge to edge screen, but it isn't bad from my use). Screen is sharp enough for me with the blackened background.

    Multimedia is adequate. I have Windows 8 on the home laptop and it is similar to that. I will upload some video and pics taken before the Nokia Amber update...and some after on separate posts.

    The Lumia Amber update introduced a host of features, I've yet to explore. But I am pleased with what's been unleashed so far (call & text blocking, FM radio)

    I paid $100+ tax for the phone on HSN.com (thanks Comcast for the $20 coupon)... I received a case and a charger for the phone also. For the price, I would get this over an underpowered Android.
    That's it for now. It seemed like I was rambling, but it is what it is.
     
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    Here are some photos attached and the YouTube links.

    [video=youtube;GAMkD8QK5s4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAMkD8QK5s4&feature=share&list=UUBbYSgwh1IEB9qf3Cu2gmRw[/video]

    [video=youtube_share;fQHNRu0yed0]http://youtu.be/fQHNRu0yed0[/video]

    The YouTube videos were enhanced with the stabilizing technology; the photos and videos were taken before the Amber update. Images arent too shabby IMO.

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    Very nice write-up Quint, glad you are enjoying the 521. :)

    Looking forwards to more on it.


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    Nice write up Quint. Thanks for sharing, and good luck with your new toy.
     
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    Good looking and nicely spec'd phone Quint.

    Always fun getting a new device, keep us up to date!

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    Very respectable for a mere $100. Thanks for posting!
     
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    Nice review, Quint. Glad that you are enjoying your Lumia 521. Looking forward to hearing more about it.

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    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    For $100, that's hard to beat! The white is a nice choice too. I can get the same phone locally for around the same price, and it's been tempting me for a while now. It's been a while since I had a Nokia, plus I'm interested to play around with the Windows OS. Have fun and report back with any pros and cons that you find.
     
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    Here are some initial speed tests. For some weird reason, Tapatalk wouldn't allow me to post the screenshots via the Windows Phone app[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    FauxG is solid on the download and iffy on the upload... With higher pings.

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    Streamed some of the Braves game on the MLB at Bat app. The screen on the 521 is WVGA. Not a bad viewing experience. Kinda grainy. If I wasnt on WiFi or 4G, I definitely wouldn't bother watching.

    Also, the phone is a 1Ghz dual core phone, not a single core.

    Battery is 1430 mAh. I get around 3 days stand by on the phone. Mediocre, IMO. I can't discuss talk time since this is a a backup phone with little calling activity.

    I am pleasantly surprised at the inclusion of Wifi calling on here (I'd love to use it more, but airtime applies.)

    Updates will continue.
     

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    Just noticed a quirk. I decided to turn off the phone to charge the phone. The Nokia decides to turn back on whilst charging. My other devices stay powered down while charging if I turn them off. I assume because my Nokia had enough of a charge to power on while charging, it immediately turned on when I plugged the charger in.



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    Yes it does that. I don't know if it is a Nokia thing or WP thing. My Asha 311 actually keeps the screen on while its plugged in to the charger.

    My iDevices will turn back on when I plug into the charger, if it died due to no battery it will take a little time to turn on. However, if I turn it off while it is plugged in it will stay off.


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    I used to turn off my Android phones while charging, but then I noticed they charged quicker when they were powered up (I think), so I started to charge them while powered on. Maybe iOS and WP turn on automatically when charging in order to speed-up or optimize the charging in some way? :confused: In any case, I think it's nice to have the option to charge while powered on or off, kind of odd that WP or iOS doesn't at least give you the option to choose :confused:
     
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    iOS does give you the option-you just have to turn it off after it starts charging and it stays off.


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    Oh, I see. And with WP it stays on while charging even if you try to turn it off?
     
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    In my case, yes. The screen doesn't stay lit, but the phone is on.

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    [​IMG]

    This Is after standby and almost 4 hours of MLB audio streaming on Labor Day. All on Wi-Fi.

    EDIT. Shortly after the I posted the screenshot, the phone dies. I guess the phone cuts off below a certain point (5%?)

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    Couple of things:

    I have to realize that hitting the search button launches the Bing app and the search isn't universal...just web only. On Android, the search button can be set to search different items.

    The retention of previous activities kinda reminds me of iOS, but fewer items are retained.
     
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    One thing that is missing is the voice to text. On Android, there was a speaker icon that allows you to convert voice to text... Kinda nifty. But not having it is not a killer.

    I also wish the keyboard would rotate no matter what app I am using. The keyboard does rotate if I'm composing a text; in other apps, the keyboard only stays in portrait mode.


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    Hey Quint, or any WP users, I have a question. Is there any app that you know of in WP that can display the phones Signal Strength (ex: -83dB)? I was thinking to also pick up a Lumia 520 to develop a Cellumap app for WP, but I don't see any API that shows signal strength (also called RSSI) :confused:

    .NET API for Windows Phone

    It's usually a standard API, at least it's been in Symbian, Android, BlackBerry, etc. Even older Windows Mobile OS had it. Why would they leave it out of the newest WP OS's? :headscrat
     
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    I am curious about this as well... I haven't seen anything... But I haven't been curious enough to find a solution.

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    I don't think the API are available at this time. Hopefully MS will add them in the future, and not sure why they would omit that API to begin with. :confused:
     
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    And to prove my point, I decided to play with the voice to text capabilities. I can do voice to text while in the text message option and email (tsk, tsk T-Mobile). But the voice to text option in other apps is still lacking.

    The voice activation is less forgiving than on Android. My Android devices had a way to adapt to your voice... I didnt see that here. It works best when you keep the commands short. (ie "Text phone number" instead of "send text to phone number")
     

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    After a little searching, it looks to me like they are leaving this out of WP8 on purpose.

    Windows Phone 6.5 had alot of useful Radio Information Layer (RIL) info, not just RSSI (signal strength) but a whole bunch of other nice stuff. In WP7 it looks like it was partially available, but restricted, and in WP8 it was completely removed. From some of the replies on WP developer forums, it sounds like they did not see any benefit of having this API available to developers and viewed it as some kind of security risk :headscrat BlackBerry, Android (and Apple?) have this API available and don't view it as a security threat. Some OS's view removable SD cards as some kind of security threat, it's hard to guess what the people behind the OS's are thinking.

    In any case, I view this as a major negative for WP. And don't see myself getting that Lumia now afterall. Actually looking at a BlackBerry 10 now instead.
     
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    Just a couple of observations:

    The phone shuts off at 5%. Every smartphone I've used shuts down at zero. Not sure whether that's a Windows phone experience or a Nokia one.
    If the Wi-Fi calling is enabled and loses the network signal, it stays on Wi-Fi and it doesn't check for a network. I would have to reboot the phone to get a network signal back.
    Sometimes I'd like to turn the phone off to recharge, however if I power down the phone and plug in the charger, it powers back on.

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    What if you put it in flight-mode and take it out again, does that get the cellular signal back? If it does, it's quicker than rebooting.
     
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    I haven't thought about that. I will have to check that out.

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