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Moving to Manhattan, KS

Discussion in 'Central US Wireless Forum' started by TheDreamer, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. TheDreamer

    TheDreamer New Member

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    I'm moving to Manhattan, KS soon (already paying rent on an apartment there, just have get a mover to move me there).

    While, I was checking out where I'll be living and working, I found my T-Mobile service to be less than satisfactory. Namely, no service at all at work. Lots of drops and no service, otherwise 1 (or, if I'm lucky 2) bar of signal. Also issues with holding a signal at the airport. Though probably time I invested in a laptop with more than an hour of battery life....

    Though the basement of the Hale Library is probably a difficult place to get any signal, I'd be interested if there is something better that I might consider?

    The strange thing is that I've been really happy since I switched to T-Mobile (from Verizon Wireless)....due to service where I was working. And, after many calls with Verizon Wireless (because they are supposed to be always working for me :rolleyes: ) I finally was told by a CSR to go find a different company to use, so I did. As I think of it, the main reason I had Verizon was they had great coverage at the old office location....largely because we were on the top floor....and their antennas were on the roof (and the principal tenant in the building was AT&T Wireless.... :biggrin: ) But, then the company moved...but had only just started into another 2 year contract with VerizonWireless. (AT&T offered to make it worth our while to leave, but then the landlord made it expensive for us to stay).

    My personal preference would be to stay with T-Mobile (and upgrade to the Blackberry 8700g)....though since I'm looking to upgrade device, I guess I'm not opposed to switching companies. Though at the time, one of the perceived advantages was international roaming...namely being able to use the phone in London, UK (not the one in Canada, which I've been to ;) ) But, as it happens I haven't had the opportunity to visit my cousin there, so haven't had the chance to test it....and she's now looking to move to California....

    FWIW, I currently use a BlackBerry 7100t (and only have unlimited BlackBerry internet plan...normally paying 20 cents a minute has been sufficient for my voice usage)

    The Dreamer.
     
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    :welcome:

    First, let me say, "Welcome to the Wireless Advisor forums."

    Second, let me say, "Welcome to my hometown, I think you'll like it here."

    I have T-Mobile here in Manhattan and have no real complaints other than, like you, I barely get signal where I work. However, I work on the outskirts of town where T-Mobile signal is pretty weak.

    I also have service with Alltel, which works very well in Manhattan and in the fringe areas around town.

    I used to have service with CellularONE until Alltel bought them. The Kansas market was divested and US Cellular bought it. The old CellularONE network was great here but I don't know how it will be once USCC fully takes over (which should be soon... by August, probably.) So all I can say is that it used to be really good but I can't vouch for it now.

    Sprint has service here and a lot of people use them but as far as I know they're like T-Mobile, pretty much having service only within the city limits and not much outside of Manhattan proper. Though, they are slowly starting to expand outward, slightly, or so I have read.

    Westlink Communications is another carrier here. They're GSM, like T-Mobile, but I don't know anything else about them.

    Recently, Cingular put up panels in this area and I can get them when I'm at work but not in Manhattan, so I think they're in the Ogden/Junction City/Ft. Riley area (west of Manhattan.) I'm not sure if they plan to actually offer service here or if they're just doing it to cut down on the roaming revenue paid to Alltel for the GSM roaming in this area.

    Really, for service in Manhattan, it all depends on what you want to use your phone for...

    If you want to be able to use it while you're at work and in the basement of K-State's library, you'll need to choose the carrier, if any, who has service there.

    If you want to be able to use your phone without roaming charges in places like Topeka, Lawrence and Kansas City, you'll probably want to stay with T-Mobile or switch to Sprint. Or, you could get a National plan with Alltel, as they do not offer native coverage east of Manhattan.

    Good luck with your move and with figuring out which provider you're going with!:)
     
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    Sprint may work well for you - there is highspeed EVDO coverage just down the road, and starting on July 1 there will be data and voice roaming on Alltel. Almost all of the Sprint plans have no additional charge for roaming now, and that will include the data roaming (in the US). - sheureka
     
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  4. TheDreamer

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    Would this mean VirginMobile would work?

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  5. strunke

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    Well yes and no, it would work but not well. VirginMobile cannot roam at all, it is on Sprint's network or it isn't on anything. It will work, but bad outside of the city and in buildings as described above. If you decide to go prepaid the best choice for that location would probably be U Prepaid from Alltel. Because it works on alltel towers and vzw towers, it may even work on sprint towers once the agreement is in place(not sure about that one). Otherwise if going contract Alltel, Sprint, T-Mobile are the choices. I live in an area similar where both are kind of spotty indoors (much more so t-mobile), and I couldn't stand either one, so I switched to Alltel. If coverage is spotty even with sprint you will run into trouble having very poor signal in a building and not being able to place a call but still having like 1 bar....while even if you can roam onto a stronger alltel signal you won't be able to becaues your phone will be holding onto the weak sprint signal as much as it can. This can be solved by going into the program menu of your phone and switching the NAM when you are in this situation, but that is a lot of trouble to go to.
     
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  6. TheDreamer

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    Alright, time to resurrect this thread.....

    I've now been in Manhattan, KS for a couple of months....I'm still with T-Mobile....though I plan to jump ship very, very soon....my anniversary with them is in a couple of months (which is also near my birthday :wink: )

    I have found T-Mobile to be kind of spotty around town...though recently, I now get 5 bars at work...though it is because there's a repeater for cellular one in the building.

    The reason I plan to jump ship....I called T-Mobile last month to give me a local number...they charged me $17, but didn't give me a local number. After complaining about it, and going back and forth with support...they told me I didn't get a local number, because they are all out. Why didn't they tell me they didn't have any and not change me....well, I'm sure its because they want to extract more money out of me. During the same exchange, they threatened that my current plan might no longer be elligible for service if I change the number. And, then claimed that based on a review of my usage, I should double my monthly subscription rate (for another 2 years).....there was only one month in the time I've been with them where usage was high (but it only cost me 50% more than my base rate)....and that was the increased usage due to relocating from Dublin, Ohio to Manhattan, KS...and not having local service at home for an extended period....

    The problem, is that I'm addicted to my BlackBerry...and that means I want to switch to another provider that also offers the BlackBerry. While most of them do....there is also the part where it should also be a step up from my current device.

    Therefore I'm looking to the 8700....oops, the only provider in the area that offers this device is T-Mobile....any speculation on when the non-GSM versions will be available from a local provider? I heard Nextel might be next...how's Nextel for coverage? Though I think I'd prefer to get Sprint and some Fair&Flexible plan....

    OTOH, if I don't leap up to a 8700 series...seems my only semi-upgrade move would be the 7100i from Nextel. One of the capabilities I really want in my next BlackBerry is the ability to play WAV files (so my VoIP Voicemail can email the message to me).

    The Dreamer.
     
  7. COtech

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    Alltel has BlackBerrys 7250 and 7130e, and operates on cellular B-band. USCC has the same two models, also, and operates on cellular A-band. I'll let you check on their audio suitability.

    If you can get T-Mobile to charge you only when they find you a local Manhattan number, check more often as end of contact approaches. You never know when someone else could disconnect a line.

    COtech
     
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  8. UFO

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    It sounds like you've had a time with T-Mobile tech support. Like COtech mentioned, keep checking with them to see if a local # comes available, but I've got a skeptical side that makes me think they're just telling you that because your account was marked as high usage so they might be trying to get rid of you. But it's also possible they're telling the truth.

    Not sure how well Nextel covers your area, but I've not heard good things about their coverage in many places in KS. What really hurts Nextel in a more rural state like KS, is they don't have any roaming partners so their coverage is very spotty in many areas around the nation.

    I would strongly consider a national Alltel plan in that area because of the coverage. What good are minutes and a blackberry if you can't use it? It sounds from what I'ved read on this thread, that unlike T-Mobile and Sprint, you will receive better coverage and it will extend beyond the city limits. And Alltel plan would also allow you to free roam on Sprint and Verizon and that includes data roaming with Sprint. Not sure about phones to go with because I basically just got mine for voice and not data but COtech sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
     
  9. walkguru

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    check out cingular, i think thier the best here where i am. might be good there too, i dunno.:browani:
     
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    I looked at Cingular's coverage map, and it looked fine for the city. There's roaming coverage further out. Inquiring of zipcode 66502 shows no service, so TheDreamer wouldn't be able to get a local number in this PCS Cingular market.

    COtech
     
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    oh well, cait win them all, i hope he finds someone to cover him.
     
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    ALLTEL's coverage around the area is supposed to be great...now the question is whether or not ALLTEL has a phone that suits thedreamer. ALLTEL's pricing is also much better than that of Cingular or Verizon as a matter of fact.
     
  13. TheDreamer

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    Well, definitely reason for me to ditch them...because other than 'that' month, my average monthly usage has been 3 minutes per month. It would be back to this range, except for all the calls to 611 last week.... Wonder how the other people with phones glued to their heads were doing...I had dropped calls while walking down Mid-Campus Drive (with 611).

    I guess I'm surprised that they didn't have local numbers for this market, and they gave no indication that they would get more. Not sure who shares the 340 exchange with them, or how big their block is. Of course, the fact that I don't know anybody on the 340 exchange, is probably another hint.....

    I have thought about getting local service and using some option like simulring or call forwarding to get to my cellphone...though that seems a rather expensive solution...plus I keep thinking that someday I might cut the cord....

    Well, except that I'm using DSL...but its currently just a basic local only service phone line....so without a local number on my cell, I can't be reached from home or from work....pretty much only other cell phone callers can reach me... Hmmm, wonder if that's the real truth....

    The Dreamer.
     
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    This is interesting....found an email in my K-State account from Cingular "Limited Time Phone Deals" -- "Free Camera Phones...."

    Except it still says it doesn't serve my zip code (or the University's zip code).

    AFAIK, the only reason I gave them my email address, was so that they could tell me if and when they do serve my area.

    The Dreamer.
     
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    :lol: yeah, they send out those spam e-mails a lot whether or not they provide service to your area.
     
  16. Andy

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    Well if you are looking for a cheap phone service you could use at home I would take a look at VOIP. I use Sunrocket VOIP and have Comcast High Speed Internet. My Sunrocket VOIP comes to something like $16 per month and includes unlimited everything...all that for less the price than a basic local only landline phone line.
     
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    If USCC bought out the old Cell One network based on what Motohooligan said you should have great coverage with them. Especially on campus if they have repeaters there. They will only improve coverage as time passes. Their only problem is their blackberries may be behind the times though compared to what you are wanting.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Yes, I'm sure CDMA would offer vastly superior coverage for the region and surrounding areas. I just think the Dreamer doesn't like their choice of phones, for Alltel or USCC. The only reason I'm thinking Alltel will give better coverage than USCC around the K-State campus is because Alltel has 4 towers in Manhattan right off of Highway 24 as opposed to USCC's 1 according to cellreception.com/towers. It's true that USCC might have more up and provide excellent coverage as well, but with the fact that Alltel has one on what looks like each side of campus and that they are a corporate sponsor of K-State athletics makes me think Alltel has went all out for reception specifically in Manhattan. He might even be able to pick up that signal in the K-State library basement! :browani:
     
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    So they say, 785/317 is the T-Mobile NPA/NXX for Manhattan. They pulled this :censored: with me when I added my brother's line in January, they should be able to get some opened up for you if you bug them enough. IMHO, though, you shouldn't have to bug them.

    You might try the manager of the kiosk in Manhattan Town Center, she seemed to know what she was doing... at least the woman who managed it in January did.
     
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