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Most Americans are in cell phone jail

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by strunke, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. strunke

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    I don't really agree with everything in this article.....but its something to read.....

    Most Americans are in cell phone jail

    At any given time, most Americans are in cell phone jail.

    You know the feeling. You talk to a friend with a snazzy new handset that does amazing things. Or you see an advertisement for a great deal on a monthly plan. Then what do you do?

    You sigh, wistfully wishing you could shop for a new phone. If you are really on top of things, you call your provider and ask when your current cell phone contract expires. And then you wait.

    One thing you don’t do: You don’t act like a rational consumer in a normal, functioning market economy. You don’t go buy the new phone, or get the cheap new plan. You don’t reward the more efficient company with your business. You can’t. You’re in jail.

    Imagine if you couldn’t switch coffee shops or grocery stores without paying hundreds of dollars in penalties. Preposterous? No — not in the world of cell phones.

    From the start, wireless providers have worked hard to lock you up into losing situations, constructing walls with cancellation fees, service-specific phones, and the loss of your phone number.

    Worse yet — cell phone companies can, and do, change their side of the contract unilaterally. Consumers seemingly have no options to decline the higher prices. In other words, they can raise prices, and you can’t quit. Consider this note of complaint, filed with the Pennsylvania Public Interest Research Group by a consumer named Kerry:

    I’m currently in the middle of a two-year contract with Verizon Wireless. They just notified me that they are dramatically increasing the charges I pay for receiving each text message from 2 cents to 10 cents.

    When I called to complain, they left me with a few choices, and I was unhappy with all of them. I could simply accept the increase in charges. Alternatively, I could sign up for an unlimited text messaging plan for another $5/month, but only if I renew with Verizon for another two years. Or, I could end my contract and pay an early termination fee of $175.

    If I don’t pay the fee and change my plan to get the best rate for text messaging, then I'm locked in with Verizon for even longer than I originally would have been had they just kept the rates the same. And since the new plan also has an early termination fee, I’ll face the same problem if they decide, without my agreement, to change the plan again to suit their needs.

    Make no mistake about it — like Kerry, most cell phone users are captives. In 2005, IPSOS North America surveyed 1,000 U.S. adults and found that 47 percent would consider switching services if termination fees were eliminated. Fully 36 percent said fees already had forced them to stay in a higher-priced plan against their will.

    This, it should be obvious, is economic lunacy. And it certainly explains why U.S. residents suffer from what is remarkably among the world’s least reliable cell phone services. After all, what’s the incentive to fix the U.S. network? NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams, on his personal blog, mentioned wistfully once that he often enjoys “crystal clear, uninterrupted” cell phone conference calls to New York while on the road in faraway, “middle of nowhere” places like the highway from Amman, Jordan to the Dead Sea. But on his daily commute into New York City? That’s another matter. In fact, cross-country drivers on the main east-west highway in the northern U.S., Interstate 90, will find this sorry fact: they can’t make a reliable phone call all the way from Chicago to Seattle.

    It’s an embarrassment, but it’s completely predictable. Captive consumers are bad for everyone, consumers and businesses alike. Why would anyone start a new cell phone company in this environment? Why would anyone invest in customer satisfaction?

    Consumers have managed to tear down one wall in this jail. In 1996, the FCC ruled that consumers who switched providers didn’t have to surrender their phone numbers, mandating what’s called number portability. Of course, it took nearly 8 years of legal battles to force wireless carriers to play along, but finally, in November 2003, consumers were allowed to switch carriers without switching numbers.

    There was an immediate impact. About 367,000 consumers abandoned AT&T Wireless in the first quarter of 2004, an incredible number given that cell phone carriers were enjoying unprecedented subscriber growth at the time. Like dogs suddenly let off their leash, consumers began a mass exodus from the notoriously unreliable provider as soon as they could. The exodus eventually brought the company to its knees, and it was forced to sell out to Cingular. Competition works. That’s capitalism. Bad companies don’t deserve to be propped up by bad regulations or supportive government agencies.

    The wireless providers who watched the demise of AT&T learned quickly; and the wall that was knocked down — number portability — was rebuilt even taller. In 2004, most carriers extended typical contracts from one year to two years. Nothing portable about that! By 2006, cell phone jail was more fortified than ever.

    And in the ultimate irony, cell phone firms found a way to profit handsomely off number portability. Beginning about a year before portability kicked in, cell phone firms began charging roughly $1 per month per customer for number portability — at one point collecting nearly $100 million per month, according to the Center for Public Integrity! The fees were hard to spot, often lumped into a line item called “federal recovery fee,” or something similar. Collectively, the industry took in more than $1 billion before the practice was curbed.

    Most Americans are in cell phone jail - Gotcha Capitalism - MSNBC.com
     
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    Terminating early termination fees
    Bottom line: Firing your cell phone company will cost you $150-$200, at least. A family of four that wants to cancel service can pay $800 to do so.

    The argument you will hear incessantly from mobile phone providers is this: Consumers pay far below cost to buy their cell phones because the price is subsidized by carriers and the termination fees are merely a means to recover some of that subsidy for consumers who bail early. Callers should be happy they can buy a cheap phone, and accept the consequences if they quit early.

    Of course, if that were true, the cancellation fee wouldn’t be the same for consumers who quit after three months as it is for consumers who quit after 19 months. Verizon Wireless conceded this point in 2006 when it announced it would begin pro-rating early termination fees. Unfortunately, other carriers didn’t follow suit.

    Consumers who don’t want to pay early termination fees do have options. They can use pre-paid, disposable cell phones, a small but growing part of the industry that doesn’t require contracts with termination fees. Or they can pay full retail price for the phone upfront. They can try to pawn their phone and plan off on someone else (cell phone contracts allow transfers at places like CellTradeUSA.com). Or they can throw themselves on the mercy of a customer service representative. Having a good story to tell apparently helps. Internet Web sites are abuzz with hints on how to get a firm to waive the fee. The most common recommendation is to use a firm’s coverage map to find a zip code that isn’t covered, then call and claim to have moved there. Results to that one seem to be mixed; many providers require proof of address.

    Another popular tip is to become an expensive customer. Start making calls outside of your cell phone firm’s coverage area, which will force your provider to pay for time on another provider’s network (we’re assuming here that you don’t pay roaming charges). After a few months, you’ll likely receive a polite letter strongly inviting you to find another cell phone company.

    Once in a while, cell phone companies themselves open up a window of opportunity for early cancellation. In 2006, when most carriers upped their text message prices, they had to send new agreements to users. Some consumers used these as an opportunity to decline the agreement and attempt to void their current contract. Because a change in terms could be interpreted as a change in the contract, the change constitutes a termination of the original pact, the argument suggests. Cell phone firms fought back, but often relented, when consumers used this tactic.

    A popular myth holds that lack of adequate service — a poor signal at home, for example — is enough to void your cell phone contract. This might seem crazed (doesn’t the contract imply that the cell phone provider is bound to provide you with cell phone service for two years?), but that’s not true. Service quality is not part of the contract. Poor service gives consumers no right to cancel.

    Dying, however, seems to work. Carriers will release you from your contract when you reach the great beyond. Only a few carriers require copies of death certificates to prove you’re dead. Others will take your word for it.

    Picking your phone’s locks
    Termination fees are not the providers’ only trick to win forced loyalty, however. In fact, they have become a bit of a red herring in the cell phone jail debate. With monthly bills creeping up towards $100, a $175 cancellation fee doesn’t sound so bad. Increasingly, cell phone jail is much more a function of hardware than contracts. Paying a $175 fee is one thing; throwing out fairly new $500 handset is quite another.

    Isn’t it amazing what phones can do today? They can pull up Web pages in a moving car. Take pictures and videos. Schedule appointments. Even give directions. It’s a wonder these smart phones can’t be used to make dinner or launch rockets. And yet, there is one thing these technological marvels can’t do. They can’t work with anyone else’s network.

    A T-Mobile phone usually won’t work on Cingular’s network. Verizon phones won’t work on either of those networks. The lack of interoperability might remind old-time techies of the days before the Internet, when you’d never imagine trying to make an Apple computer talk to a Microsoft-powered PC. That language barrier is a relic now. How can these incredibly sophisticated cell phones be so unsophisticated in this one way?

    Well, it’s intentional. Cell phones are locked down by cellular providers with special software that prevents them from being used on other networks. In this realm, there isn’t even a pretense by cell phone providers about their intentions. The software is called “locking” software. With consumers now paying $500 or more for these not-so-smart-after-all smart phones, locking software is the best tool yet cell phone companies have invented to lock up consumers. Even after a consumer’s contract has run out, even after a consumer finds a competitor with a much cheaper per-minute plan, or much more reliable coverage, phone locks are still a major deterrent. You have to swallow hard to throw a fully functional $500 phone into the trash.

    With that kind of money at stake, clever engineers (hackers! But good hackers!) have jumped in and worked up a work-around. There are ways to trick phones into ignoring the unlocking software. Internet sites sell such services for as little as $5.

    Naturally, cell phone providers have spent a lot of time and killed a lot of trees trying to argue that use of unlocking tricks is illegal. Specifically, their lawyers have argued that unlocking software violates of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which was designed to keep thieves from circumventing software used to prevent pirating of movie DVDs, music CDs, and software.

    Let’s look at this argument more closely. According to the industry, you paid $500 for a phone, but you’re not allowed to type in a small string of characters into the handset which allows you to use the phone as you wish.

    Jennifer Granick, a high-profile lawyer based at Stanford University who often defends computer hackers, took on this argument in 2006. She suggested that courts had already rejected a similar argument from computer printer maker Lexmark, which fought to stop generic ink cartridges from working in its printers. Courts had also ruled in favor of generic garage door opener makers.

    In late 2006, the federal government sided with Granick, deciding that unlocking a phone was not a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. By then, some companies were already starting to give in and give unlock codes to consumers who were clever enough to ask for them. Others firms were still stingy about it, but couldn’t prevent would-be unlockers from buying the software. Consumer advocates claimed victory. So did environmentalists, who saw new hope that fully-functioning phones wouldn’t end up in landfills quite so often, as they could now be re-sold and re-used. Many hoped that cell phones had been set free.

    Not quite. The phones, as sold, are still hamstrung with locking software by default. Only those who know enough to ask ever consider using their phones on a competitor’s network. Despite the fanfare surrounding Granick’s case in techie circles, the vast majority of Americans still think cell hardware is limited to use with a single carrier. But now you know better. From Gotcha to Got Them!

    Most Americans are in cell phone jail - Gotcha Capitalism - MSNBC.com
     
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    I think that at some point, some of the early termination fees makes sense, especially if people sign up, stay beyond the trial period, and then decide there is a better carrier... a carriers customer service people are not zero cost, the stores facilities are not zero cost, etc. Please note that I said some of the fees make sense. More like $50 or so.

    OTOH, most businesses these days must find some way to avoid impacting the shareholders bottom line returns. That means a company must find some way to make customers (not shareholders) foot the bill for development and growth. After all, a customer cannot demand a new CEO, but shareholders can. And so it goes with billion dollar businesses. They WILL exist.

    AFAICT, the only major companies that disappear are the ones that can't figure out a way to make the customer foot the bill for growth and/or simply cannot get a grip on convincing the customer to return to that company (ala CompUSA).
     
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    I just noticed an irony in this article: it is based on a MSNBC article.
    The MS part = Microsoft.
    Microsoft surely hates to see people start using MacOS, BSD or Linux, Microsoft charges lots of money, Microsoft doesn't like to expose details about their products inner workings, Microsoft likes to manipulate your experiences such that you dare not go anywhere else for fear of being incompatible, etc., etc.. Sort of interesting.:p
     
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    Only the uneducated consumer is in jail. If you shop around and think in terms of the two year contract, you should be fine in most cases. Buy a phone that will grow with you as opposed to something that will be outdated in a matter of days. Smartphones are a good example of this.
     
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    The desire for new phones is the big kicker. People get bored of their phones and want new ones and sign for 2 more years so they wont have to pay the whole amount.
     
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    Exactly. How many of the people that paid $600 for an iPhone are going to be happy with their purchase a year later? They are going to want the latest and greatest phone out at the time, and they won't qualify for an upgrade.

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    When I first read this article, I thought it was written by some whiney 15-year old on his blog. I was suprised it was written by an adult at MSNBC. :eek:

    He voids his own arguement with the paragraph he wrote below about subsidised phones and pre-paid options. The point about pro-rated early termination fees was a good point, but that was the only good point in his 20 paragraphs of endless rambeling and whining. :rolleyes:

     
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    On top of that, His estimations of "Cell phone jail" have to be off. Consider me. According to him I'm in cell phone jail, because I just took $200 off the purchase of my Tilt a few months ago. The truth is, I do not consider myself in jail. I have not switched carriers in almost 8 years, and have no plans on doing so anytime soon. I am a satisfied customer.

    To me someone is only in jail if they want out of their contract. Even these people are partially at fault for their situation. Most are probably unhappy with coverage or their handset. In both situations if they did the proper research before comitting to buy they could have avoided these problems alltogeather.

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    I would only consider myself in jail if I had been locked into a contract without a subsidized phone. As long as the carriers offer at least the ETF off of a full retail of the phone, it seems more like a "buy now, pay later" type of a deal — should you decide to drop the contract. In the rest of the world, where people are free to move around as they please, they usually have to buy their phones without subsidies (there might be a few exceptions, but not a lot).
     
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    It just comes down to education, most consumers just don't have all the facts. We are groomed to just walk into a store, buy an item, and take it home with the full expectation that it will be fully functioning when we need it to be. At no point does it seem the average consumer even takes safeguards by researching their purchases prior to walking into a store, asking friends, or consulting a wealth of information online.

    Things happen - devices malfunction and returns/exchanges are not a bad thing. Defects are common amongst high-tech devices, but because these are cellphones that we are speaking about they are somehow exempt from common rationale.
     
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    My experience of the "rest of the world" has also been the same.

    I thought I had read on this board that you cannot walk into a T-Mobile store with your own phone and get an T-Mobile account and be on month to month. Supposedly the only way to do this with TM is PrePay. Is there any truth to that? If that is the case then I would consider myself to be in jail.
     
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    I don't buy that argument. Wal-mart's facilities are not zero cost. The airlines customer service line is not zero cost. Every business has operating expenses, and that is not an excuse for a contract on a service that has evolved from a luxury to a necessity. Acquisition cost can be absorbed into a activation fee. But prepaid phones do not have activation fee, yet they still have cost to acquire the customer, so go figure.

    Contracts had their place when the basic equipment was expensive back in the late ninety's. However, now that the cost of a cell phone that can make voice calls and text has fallen to forty bucks or less, contracts need to become obsolete. If you don't believe me look at many of the Asian countries. You never hear of contracts, and the carriers do not subsides handsets. Yet it seams like everyone has cell phones. Of course this is just based on what I hear from my family in Malaysia and Singapore, and my experience in UAE and Iraq - yes, war torn Iraq.
     
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    i agree, contracts are dumb.:loony:
     
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    Personally if I am spending more than $100 on an item I do a lot of research on what model, features, and where to buy it. I started looking at new phones 3 months before I qualified for an upgrade. When I bought my Microsoft Zune I spent a lot of time looking at different mp3 players before deciding to buy the Zune, then spent another month finding the best deal, before buying it new for $180. Time between when I decided to buy an mp3 player to the time I actually did was about 3 months. When I bought my first pickup truck I looked for 6 months before I found the right truck at the right price. I've always been like this, I guess I got it from my father. I remember going to the library with him looking up reliability ratings of different items before he would buy them.

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    And more people need to be like this. Honestly. It's "Buyer Beware" for a reason.
     
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    Heres a funny one now that your thinking of Cell Phone Jail.

    I had a ATTWS TDMA Cell Phone in 1999 when I was out in Seattle. I had just been transfered from Germany to Seattle and needed a Cell. I signed a Contract With ATTWS and picked up a Cool Ericcson for the time. Well time went on and at the time I really didnt need a cell and it didnt work very well at work or at my home so I decided to cancel. I called CS and they said pay $100 ETF and I was done. Take in mind this was 1999.

    Now its the year 2007 and something magically appears on my Credit Report its a DEBT to ATT Wireless. At first thought I had thought it was identity theft and somebody went and got a phone in my name as there was no ATT coverage in my area at the time.

    About a month goes buy and I get a letter from a DEBT collector looking for $100 or an ETF I tell them I paid it 8 years ago but I have no proof. I paid that 100 bucks again 8 years after the fact.

    The new ATT must have been looking thru the Old ATT's file cabinet, who knows.
     
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    Isn't there a time limit to when they cannot come after you for debt and stuff? I thought it was like five or seven years.
     
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    probably but filing a claim in court would cost you more...sucks it happened to him...but frankly it could happen to any of us...thats what the corporate world can do to us..no matter what product or company.
     
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    You can still get a $40 phone and pre-paid card in the US, can't you? Getting a contract and subsidised phone is more of a luxury of rich western countries. You can get a free high-end phone (on avg $400) every 2 years. That's because people spend around $60-100 a month on their phone bill, so for a carrier to offset the price of a $400 phone at $15 a month over 2 years isn't so bad. They're still making a profit, and locking in a customer for 2 years. And you get a free phone. It's a win-win deal.

    In poor countries people aren't generally offered that option. Mainly because customers only spend maybe $10 a month or so on phone calls. So they just buy a cheap $40 phone and pay-as-you-go.

    In some poor countries operators don't even offer post-paid contracts because they have no way to collect when people don't pay. Do you think people in Congo have credit ratings? It's pre-paid or nothing.
     
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    Look at the iphone and the 2 years contract. If I buy a phone outright which I do anyways I want to be able to not have a contract.
     
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    If you buy the phone outright or bring your own phone, you still get locked to a 2 year contract? :confused:
     
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    Most carriers the answer would be yes, I think they might give you a 1 year contract if you bring your own equipment.

    -Jay
     
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  25. charlyee

    charlyee Ultimate Insanity
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    I think with at&t, if you do it at a store it can be contract free. I just ported my Verizon number over to my existing 6131 and that line is contract free. The manager had to approve it but it got done.
     
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  26. RadioFoneGuy

    RadioFoneGuy Powered by HTC FUZE
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    Most carrier do the 1 year 2 years to make up for subsidising phones but it shouldnt be that way if you bring a phone.

    I dont have to worry about a contract but in some cases some people do.
     
  27. Jay2TheRescue

    Jay2TheRescue Resident Spamslayer
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    Yes, and a lot has to do with how good a relationship you have with your dealer. I have a very good relationship with my dealer and they do stuff for me that normally isn't done.

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    i think people forget that cellphones are still a sales driven industry. or maybe its the fact that people dont care that loyalty to a certain store or salesperson has gone down. i can remember when i bought my first phone, i had one guy i wento and he was my guy, i didnt call customer service, that is what he was for. now a days you dont find people wanting a customer/rep relationship as much as they use too. getting back to that mentality is the dream situation for any company though.
     
  29. Eric47

    Eric47 Bronze Senior Member
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    only reason that the iphone is that way is because no one would pay the outright price for it. the actual cost that ATT pays for it is insane. 2x higher than almost any other phone ive seen outright that is sold in stores here.
     
  30. M in LA

    M in LA Mobile 28 Years Plus
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    If being in "cell phone jail" is what it's called now, then so be it. I've paid ETF's before. I'm not thrilled with it but it's a small price to pay for getting rid of a carrier I'm not happy with.

    If I want to pay less for a phone, then I accept an ETF if I bail early. Action and consequence.
     
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