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More VERY BAD news for Samsung Note 7's

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by KevinJames, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. KevinJames

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    Another star-child turns out to be nothing more than a meteoric rock in the sky :confused:
     
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    Maybe this will serve as a wake-up call to Samsung. Their quality has been far from stellar IMHO.
     
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    Geez. What a bad PR month for Samsung.


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    I took that as "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..........." from Oscar Wilde.

    Sorry to be flip but I don't know what else to contribute to this thread.

    Samsung has never been a favorite of mine but I do feel bad for what they must be going through and how much damage control they would need to do.


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    @charlyee: No worries. Samsung has slowly fallen out of my favor as well.
     
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    Get ready for a 2nd recall of the Note 7
     
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    @palandri: Not sure if you were just kidding, but I actually anticipate it. Supposedly the battery itself was never the real issue in the first place. It was the circuitry that was supposed to control the battery. Still, Samsung isn't the only one with phones burning up.
     
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    The word is that Samsung rushed the Note 7 out the door to beat Apples launch of the IPhone 7. Sacrificing QC and skipping engineering steps.

    I'd recommend moving to an Apple phone. They are in a position to be very through with regards to engineering and QC.

    It just works.


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    @KevinJames, what are you thinking? There are rumors of AT&T planning to drop Note 7 altogether. Are you keeping yours for now and waiting for the investigation into a "safe" phone bursting into flames to complete, or are you keeping it regardless?

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    @viewfly: Regarding Apple and quality control: Really!? Did you even read the link I attached in the prior post?

    @dmapr: I didn't have any problem with the original Note7 nor with the replacement. I will keep mine for now ONLY because I have become very short tempered about the massive amount of time it takes to setup yet another device. I've gone from my Note3 to the original Note7 to the interim S7-Edge to the replacement Note7. Even weeks later, I am still finding that I've forgotten setup some apps I use and when I try to launch them the instead go through their initial setup routine. Then there is the whole matter of the new phone giving me issues connecting to my Asus ZenWatch2. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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    What a sad parallel for Samsung. First the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge come out to rave reviews and strong sales. Then the Note 7 comes out and it literally blows up in their face!

    I have had no issues with the S7 Edge in the 7 months I've had it. Still, Samsung really has an epic fail on their hands and they'd better make sure the S8 is class leading and non-explosive. Otherwise Samsung won't be one of the top smartphone makers anymore, IMO. I don't think this Note 7 debacle will go away for a long time.

    Please Samsung, don't become Samsuck again!
     
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    @M in LA: 100% agree. I guess I need to remind myself that the main reason any company is in business is to make a profit, not just sell. But at some point, where profit and public exposure become the ONLY driving force, consumers begin to see unethical practices that drive them away. It is then that the business leaders need to rethink what they really want -- are they willing to sacrifice a good reputation for mere profit? AT&T and Comcast are infamous (as is Verizon) for this behavior and they have paid dearly for it.
     
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    Well, if AT&T decides to drop the Note 7 completely, Samsung will be looking at a very unprofitable quarter. It is very unfortunate that Samsung QC is practically non-existent if my refrigerator and two TVs are any indication.

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    Samsung is so big and is into so many different markets, from washers, dryers, refrigerators, blu ray, computers, TVs cameras, memory...etc... Could a conglomerate that big be hurt by one bad phone?

    I am thinking back to when Microsoft was being fined a million dollars a day and people laughed and said it would take 20 years for that fine to even make a dent in Gates pocket.
     
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    Good question. Here's my read:
    AT&T is their third biggest customer, or so I heard
    If they stop selling Note 7, they will likely return all of the inventory to Samsung
    That inventory becomes dead weight as Samsung can't move it
    So it could potentially mean hundreds of millions of dollars for Samsung and I don't think their margin is big enough to just shrug it off

    Incidentally, I received some AT&T spam today in the mail. They're offering the "latest" phones, namely Galaxy 7 Edge, Galaxy 7 Active and LG G5. Not a peep about the Note.

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    Of course I read it. Even before you posted.

    Everything like this is statistics. 2.5 Million Note 7's are being recalled. 90 something have exploded.

    65-70 Million iPhone 7's are out there, and the story says 1 exploded during shipping to the customer. The conditions are unknown. No US mandated recall or banning of iPhone from aircraft.




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    It’s official: AT&T is discontinuing sales of the Galaxy Note 7
    In addition to removing the handset from its lineup, the carrier also revealed that it wouldn’t allow customers in possession of a recalled Note 7 to exchange it for a replacement model. Instead, they’ll be able to choose a different Samsung device or an offering from another manufacturer.

    from sammobile
     
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    Well, at this point Samsung can skip shooting itself in the foot and instead go for the full seppuku. :sneaky::confused::eek:
     
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    @palandri: LOL. You'v been slyly trying to convince me to buy Asus phone for a while now. I just might take you up on that. If AT&T or the CPUC force me to turn in my Note7, that is probably what I'll go with.
     
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    And in the "better late than never" some good news for the Note 7. Remember the scratch test from a while back? Turns out the picks were at fault. Check out the new test here.
     
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    Yeah, the "no updates" is probably one of the more tangible and major reasons to return the phone. I'm investigating. What I'd like is the closest non-Samsung device that approximates the specs of the S7.

    Must work on AT&T
    Screen size: 5.5 to 6"
    Screen rez: Quad HD 1440 x 2560 pixels
    Battery: 3,500mAh or larger
    OS: Android (obviously) at least ver.6
    Camera: at least 12MP
    Memory: expandable
    RAM: at very least 3MB
    Processor: at very least: Qualcomm Snapdragon 820

    Another legit and real concern is the possibility of being turned away from public transit. I don't expect to fly any time soon, but the way people are reacting to the Note7 (as if it were the plague of death) does concern me.
     
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    @KevinJames, according to GSM arena, there ain't no such thing :( You're gonna have to budge on something. The closest to the specs would be the Galaxy S7 Edge. The closest non-Samsung would be the Pixel XL (-50mAh, -expandable storage).
     
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    @palandri, here's an article that analyzes the potential Samsung losses. Don't know if it's accurate or not, but it's interesting.
     
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    It is interesting. It sounds like they can absorb it with as big as they are. I would imagine a company that relies more on phone sales would have a much harder time recovering.
     

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