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Missing climber's cell phone sends signal

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by Telekom, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. Telekom

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    COOPER SPUR, Oregon (AP) -- One of three climbers stranded amid ice, billowing snow and gale-force winds on Oregon's Mount Hood has been turning his cell phone on and off, authorities said Thursday, raising hopes for his rescue.

    T-Mobile received a signal from Kelly James' cell phone late Tuesday night, indicating it was back on, when it had been off.

    The sequence of signals suggested James, 48, of Dallas, Texas, may have been turning his cell phone off to conserve battery power, a possibility that brought hope to family members who have gathered near the mountain.

    "My heart was in my throat when I heard that, because if it's true it means Kelly is alive, and he has his wits about him," his brother, Frank James of Orlando, Florida, said at a news conference.

    T-Mobile also reported that the cell phone initiated a call Monday morning.

    The Hood River County Sheriff's Office said T-Mobile continued to signal, or "ping," the cell phone Wednesday, but the last signal received was Tuesday night.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/14/missing.climbers.ap/index.html
     
  2. walkguru

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    Lets hope they find them in time.
     
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  3. Andy

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    Agreed- the weather there has been very bad.
     
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    And getting worse. A big storm is coming in this evening - it has been raining all day down here in the city, so it's got to be snowing like crazy up there. They are also predicting 60mph winds down here in the valley, so it is going to be blizzard conditions up on the mountain.
     
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  5. MOTOhooligan

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    I think now is the time to dig out my old analog bag phone and stick it in my trunk for emergencies. Won't get regular service on it but it is programmed and will still dial 911.
     
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  6. Andy

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    Are there a lot of areas out there that are still analog only, moto?
     
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    You know, I remember we had a thread that showed maps of amps service and what cdma coverage looks like without it, was pretty grim in the western area of the US. Shame I can't locate it right now, but yes there are quite a few areas that are still just plain analog, especially towards the wilderness.
     
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    I also hope they find these guys soon before a worst fate happens.

    As for the Analog difference over CDMA, is it possible when they shut down Analog the coverage will improve in these area's with CDMA?
    I mean is it possible the carriers are waiting to do both around the same time, or is it mainly due to signal loss over the area going from AMPS to CDMA?

    If they do find these guys alive, between what happened to Kim & them and the cell phones just being out of usable range, yet being able to be located that enough people will complain to have carriers put up more towers?
    Especially in these remote locations.
     
  9. hillbilly44

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    Fire14; Sounds good except you can't build towers in alot of rural areas that are State or National Parks. The NEPA rules kick in. The last tie I checked it was also cost prohibitive to build there (in a park) even if you could build in a park. Until the public forces the government to change the rules towers in a lot of rural areas are not going to be built.:(
     
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    Yeah I know, but it could happen with the public getting more information on this with these 2 situations & pressure could be placed on the Govt. to allow them, especially with the CNET Editor & the technical and media backgrounds involved with them.

    And I realize it would be very cost prohibitive to do these build outs in these areas.
    Maybe they could use the USF money to help these carriers build out in these rural area's, since tha't the basic idea of the money that we pay the goverment for so they can give the money to both landline & wireless carriers in these rural area's to build out phone coverage. (It's nice to dream too).
     
  11. NokiaKrazy

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    I don't know anything about this story. Is it ongoing right now? (I've been asleep all day).

    Turning phone off and on. Why not just call someone? Tell them you are ok.
     
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    Yeah it's ongoing at the moment,

    Chances are he doesn't have enough service to actually make a call, this is really a lot like the James Kim situation, hopefully they'll be able to get a rough location on him so they can pull him out alive.
     
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    In the western US and more rural areas, like nKrypteD1 says, yes, there are still a lot of areas that are AMPS-only, but I prefer to have it because not only are there AMPS-only areas but it's also got ten times the power of my digital phones.
     
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  14. Telekom

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    It's only got 10 times the power if you have a car phone or a bag phone. Hand helds certainly do not have the 3 watt power that the car and bag phones do. I don't even know that those car and bag phones are even manufactured any longer. I don't know that for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if Moto doesn't make them any longer.
     
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    Handhelds have 20% the power. ----> 0.6 watts.
    Just my :twocents:
     
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    I agree that there are still plenty of Analog only places, especially in the Western U.S. (ALLTEL comes to mind), but those areas are getting smaller every day. I know of several areas that are now digital(on ALLTEL) that were not digital a few months ago.
     
  17. kjo

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    A lot of people are still here without Power. I hope they find him, and that everything gets back to normal soon.

    Nice and cold tonight...the wind died down, but it's getting close to freezing in my neck of the woods!
     
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    :) if the gps ( 911 ) was switch on full time instead of when you make a 911 call could they pick up a singal ? :confused:
     
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    Keep in mind that T-Mobile does not use GPS. I don't believe cingular does either. I think it's only the CDMA carriers Sprint and VeriZon that uses GPS.
     
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    So far they found one of these climbers, but unfortunatly he was deceased. He was found in a snow cave.
    Hopefully the other 2 are ok, but it's looking worst each day.
     
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    If T-mobile is detecting his signal in those remote mountains, then he can't be that far from a highway. ;)
     
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    yeah, its not looking too good, now.:(
     
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    Just add to this. Moto does still make bag phones. I think it is called the M800 or something...
     
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    Yes, Motorola makes a tri-mode bag phone, but it's only 0.6 watts, as opposed to the old school, AMPS bag phones that were 3 full watts.

    In comparison, a handheld, digital phone uses 0.3 watts of power.
     
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