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It's true! Metro PCS to build out in Los Angeles market!

Discussion in 'Western US Wireless Forum' started by larry, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. larry

    larry Sprint loyalist and former mod
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    Metro PCS has applied to build a monopine in my home city of Orange here in Orange County, CA. The public hearing is coming up. I'm thinking about attending just to see what is said.
     
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    I know Metro PCS is going to do this. I think the network is going to stuck for a long time and with unlimited airtime in that market; I think alot of lower income people will be very intreasted in buying service then probably not be happy with the coverage and automated customer service when you dail *611.
     
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    Like I said before, no chance that Metro can build out a quality network here with today's coverage expectations. It's taken the other carriers 10 years to get what they wanted.
     
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    Sprint is coming up on 10 years in the LA Metro. :cheers2:

    Look at Cingular Blue AKA LA Cellular. Sounds like Sprint is a better choice in that area since the network has less drop calls and better signal :smokin:
     
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    How insane of Metro to build a network there. I wonder what they are thinking?! I really haven't heard all that much good info about Metro, so I guess their LA network can live up to all their other networks' expectations too.
    Larry, I think you should get a Metro phone once they start selling service and let us know how bad it is because this is really interesting.
     
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    You mean if they start selling. I don't see that happening for 3 or 4 years.
     
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    What if...Metro PCS enters the market just like T-Mobile? For the first few years, all T-Mobile users used what was then the Cingular (orange) network. Then, T-Mobile began installing their own sites and as more sites came online, T-Mobile customers would roam less. Ultimately, T-Mobile took over Cingular's spectrum and equipment.

    I don't see why Metro couldn't come out of the gate, roaming on, say, Sprint, and as their own network matures, would need less 'roaming' on Sprint. It would be a great way to 'introduce' Metro to the market, which, like any new company, would have high start-up costs for the first few years, but most of these costs would be for roaming.
     
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    Yeah that's what I was thinking. However I haven't heard of any plans for that to happen. But in order to start selling service here they would seemingly have to make a deal with Sprint to piggy back on their network for a while. Isn't it also easier for the GSM carriers to make a deal like that since there are no PRL's involved?
     
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    It's a great idea, but think about the costs. In a lot of areas, Metro customers would be roaming on Sprint for years because of no service at their homes/work. How would Metro pay Sprint for the roaming charges since Metro offers cheap unlimited calling? where will they get the money from?
     
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    I don't think Sprint and Metro PCS have any roaming agreements anywhere, do they?
     
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    But VZW has a roaming agreement with Metro PCS to get the 10 MHz in San Fran.
    I don't know the details of the agreement so I don't know if Metro PCS customers can get a bunch of airtime on VZW network in LA when they launch service.
     
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    Not that I know of.
     
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    they're network launch is 2007 they're building and colocating with everyone and their brother. Their network is soooo dynamic right now that if they move a search ring it affects the neighboring sites and so they have to move those rings . it's not fun working for them right now because of this...reminds of the days when we were building out the Sprint PCS network down here. Move one site and the rest gets moved.

    They're hitting us up right now for colo's on our towers...but they're being totally cheap they'll walk away from a site if the rent is too "high"

    no matter they'll pay for the roaming on verizon and maybe sprint when they launch.
     
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    2007 is very optimistic. I've been watching the local public hearings and many of their applications are under the name 'Royal Street Communications'. It takes at least 5 years to build a quailty network here no matter who the carrier is. I have yet to see any of their sites actually built yet (at least here in my city). I'm sure they can get up the sites in the easy cities like Anaheim, Garden Grove, Long Beach, etc. But when they have to go to bat with the tough NIMBY cities (ie. Beverly Hills, Manhattan Beach, Lake Forest) they won't stand a chance.
     
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    They may launch in 2007 with roaming agreements as suggested by another poster and with a swiss cheese network. I would think that allowing roaming on a swiss cheese network, especially if you offer unlimited minutes to users, wouldn't be very cost effective for MetroPCS as a ton of customers will use a ton of minutes.
     
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    Yeah that sounds feasible. If you look around at all the carriers here it has taken them years and years to really get where they wanted to in network quality.
     
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    And every carrier still has areas that are not perfect in the LA area and it will take them years to get sites approved and actually built. I think that they may be able to build out main areas quicker than the even more NIMBY residential neighborhods.
     
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    Yeah they will be able to get a lot of sites up in the cities/communities that don't require a public hearing such as my city (Orange). But other tougher cities like Rancho Palos Verdes or Thousand Oaks could take years.
     

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