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iTap vs. T9

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by mcf04581, Mar 25, 2004.

  1. mcf04581

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    Im just curious how many people in here prefer iTap over T9. I personally cannot get rid of a Motorola as my primary phone all because of this. I average about 1500 sent texts per month and cannot stand T9. Its too bad cause as we all know, the v60p isnt exactly the greatest of phones.
     
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    whats the difference between itap and T9. I have only used T9.
     
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    It's Motorola's form of T9. I personally prefer T9 if I absolutely must use it. I have both a Motorola V525 and a Nokia N-Gage. I prefer to text without iTAP or T9 activated.
     
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    I prefer T9.
     
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    I like iTAP better but I'm willing to deal with either, especially given that I don't text very much.
     
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    I have to say I always used Nokias so I got used to T9. Now that I have a Moto, I have to say I think I like iTAP better. However, as far as prediction accuracy, both are just about the same. The only thing is that iTAP has more features (or tools) which some people think makes it more complicated to use, but I think it is an added convenience once you get used to it. The trick is to ignore the rest of the word as you type so you don't get confused. If you do that, you'll find it takes the same amount of keystrokes to type a sentence with either T9 or iTAP. Now, if you take full advantage of the added goodies in iTAP, you can most likely type a sentence with less keystrokes than if you were using T9.
     
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    I also find I can add entries to the T9 dictionary where I could not with iTAP.
     
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    T9 for me
    however, I seldom ever do text messaging
     
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    T9 all the way. Itap involves at least 1 more button to push no matter what. Then if it's wrong the first try, it is cool to scrollover to the right word, vs * or whatever on T9. However, spelling cat takes at least 4 taps on itap, while only 3 on T9 for instance. I found itap to be much slower. T9 however, is best on Nokias, it was merely OK on Kyocera's and LG's. Somehow it just flows better on a nokia.
     
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    In my Moto, iTap takes 3 keys to spell "cat", not 4 and it seems to guess the words correctly more often than T9 ever did. What I like about iTap, is that, unlike T9, it learns from your habits. For instance, I tried to type "bat" instead of "cat" since both words use the same key sequence (2 2 8). However, when I started typing, the phone wanted to write "cat" instead of "bat". On the first keystroke, the phone typed a "C" but I wanted "B". There's always spelling suggestions across the bottom of the screen so I scrolled to choose "B" and after that, pressing 2 and 8 typed A and T to form the word "bat". The nice thing is that the next time you go to type a message, the phone remembers that you did that so on the next time you press 2 2 8, the phone will spell "bat" not "cat". I don't think T9 can do this which is something I found annoying on Nokias using T9. Nokias didn't seem to learn from mistakes.

    Another example is that every time I pressed 63, phones with T9 like to spell "of" instead of "me". Well, using iTap, the same thing happened except that my Moto already learned that when I type 63, I mean "me" instead of the word "of". So now, on the first try, when I type 63, the phone types "me", not "of" which is something I had to keep correcting on Nokias all the time. Of course, the word "of" is always a suggestion across the bottom of the screen, just in case I want to change the preference when I enter 63 next time.

    Another thing I like about iTap is that it integrates all languages so you don't have to be switching languages. In T9, if I wanted to type in Spanish, I would have to go into the preferences and change the language to Spanish and then I had to change it back to English when I wanted to type in English again. With iTap, that's not an issue. Since all languages are integrated, when the phone sees you are typing in another language it suggests the more likely words for that language instead of thinking it is a badly spelled English word.

    Now remember, I come from the world of T9 and Nokias so I've been using T9 since it first came out. This is my first phone using iTap and to me, it seems more intelligent than T9 for what I see.
     
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    No, T9 cannot learn and that is pretty annoying. Itap on the T730 required cat to be typed on the numbers (228), then I had to select it, hence 4 "taps". Many times this led to many more button presses. Maybe you have a new Itap, or my T730 was retarded?

    This is that place I was talking about with the seemingly good Cingular deals. I won't get to the mall for awhile probably. Give em a call. They have several reps who actaully know what's going on.

    302-672-7262
     
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    And just wait for the next version of iTap. It will analyze your grammar and be able to predict sentences and what your next word will be based on the context. It will blow T9 out of the water!

    I hope a future version includes voice recognition [​IMG] That would be cool.
     
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    Yeah that'd be great in some cases. In class and other times when SMS's are used...not so useful ha. Let me know if you call that place!
     
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    T9 - HANDS DOWN is the best. iTap doesn't allow you to back up in a sentence and re-edit a word. You must delete the word and completely re-enter it. For example I like to type out my message without looking at the screen and go back and correct any words that were not what I intended. Also T9 will learn if you want HOME vs GOOD over time. I have not found this to be the case with iTap. I am about ready to trash my CRAZOR simply because it doesn't support T9.
     
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    What do you mean T9 can't learn, it certainly does. It learned that I type Good more often than Home.
     
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    Taken from: Some notes on iTap

    (Trust me T9 is better!)


    Difference between iTap (from Lexicus, Motorola) and T9 (Tegic)

    T9 is used on Nokia and on many other brands of phone. iTap on Motorola only?
    According to two researchers from Motorola `iTAP is better'
    iTap offers word-completions. (In my opinion, this feature, while nice for long words, makes iTap harder to explain, since a novice user, having heard that iTap does word completions, is likely to be demoralized and confused by the bad predictions that are made when only half the word is written. When I explain T9 to people I tell them to ignore the display until they have finished the word.)
    ITap's predictions are context-dependent. This means it can predict whole sentences, which is nice, if you are a predictable writer. But T9 advocates would emphasize the advantage of T9's being NOT context-dependent is that you know that to write a particular word, you can memorize a particular key sequence - for example, to write "HOME", you always press "4663**" (or some such), independent of context. This is good for useability, as it means the experienced user can go fast and doesn't need to look at the display.
    From this Motorola review: `iTap has its faults. For one, pressing the 1 button defaults to putting the number 1 in the word instead of putting a period. If you enter a space after the word, the 1 key will default to a period, but not if you are at the end of a word. This is real annoying, as you either have to waste a character at the end of each sentence, or you need to waste a keystroke to select the period instead of the 1. What were they thinking?'
    You can correct iTap as you write a word, and `lock in' your corrections, by using the arrow buttons. (This option is not available in T9 - and perhaps for good reason, since it is often not necessary to make corrections.) The recommended way of adding a word to iTap's dictionary is to use this `lock in corrections as needed' approach, rather than the simple `multitap' (abc) approach chosen in T9. This means that in iTap, you have to keep switching buttons (from 1-9 to the arrow buttons)
    In T9, '0' is used to insert a space (and implicitly to confirm that the displayed word is fine). In iTap, 'Select' is used to terminate words AND to insert a space. Pressing Select twice, in iTap, will send the text message.
    You can enter symbols and numbers in iTap without switching mode. (Actually, you can enter numbers in T9 too, by holding down the corresponding key.)
    My take on the difference between iTap and T9: T9 is very simple to explain: iTap has more features which make it harder to explain, and perhaps it demands a little more attention from the user too. iTap makes the user make decisions of the form `shall I stop writing the word now, and try to find it in the word completion mode, or shall I continue writing the word?'
    A user faced by such choices may find he regrets his decisions. T9 doesn't bother the user with such choices. You just keep going, and you'll be writing at close to one character per key press, which is fine. I never regret using T9.
    Users may also misunderstand the choices they are offered in itap: they may think that, since they are offered the chance to correct the word on the fly as they write it, they should do so; but doing so leads to slower writing.
     
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    Wow, another old thread brought back to life.
     
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    I would love to bring this thread back to life again for an update.

    In the past four years I've had a MOTOROLA phone and an LG phone.

    I text often and slightly preferred the MOTOROLA iTAP vs THE LG T9 mainly for the "bat/cat" reasons stated by a previous poster.

    How's the iTAP vs T9 pros and cons in 2009 as I'm about to get a new phone.

    Thanks in advance.

    Scrim
     
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    I do not believe it "learns" based on preferences on how often u type a certain word. I typed "home" many many times and it still always wants to send "good" unless I hit the zero key to change it.

    scrim
     

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