Is your local Analog cellular network turned off yet?

All of the analog belongs to AT&T as it has both 850 bands in Jacksonville. at&t analog is supposed to be available there.... unless it's blocked by Verizon there. Hmmmmm

Although my VX3300 has an ancient PRL from 2006, the phone was abl to acquire the AT&T analog (SID 1155).

 

Yeah the e815 is digital only even though it is considered an older model. v710 was last great moto trimode.

 

This morning, in Jacksonville Beach,I was briefly able to connect to at&t analog (SID 0075) with my Verizon v710. However, I tried setting that phone to "Analog Only," a few minutes later, and could not connect.

Where in "the Sunshine State" are you located, Quint?

BTW, I thought SID 1155 was U.S.Cellular.

 

I highly doubt that ALLTEL, or any company for that matter would turn off analog where there is no digital. That would make no sense whatsoever. Just within the past month or two, ALLTEL has added CDMA to ALL cell sites in my state, getting ready for the AMPS sunset date, I am positive the same will happen in all areas before the AMPS network is shut down.

 

I am in Tallahassee.

SID 1155 belonged to USCellular.... but they sold off the TDMA/Analog sites and customers (in Northern Florida/south Georgia) to AT&T Wireless back in 2004. If I'm not mistaken AT&T has the A side and ALLTEL has the B side in Tallahassee.

 

I dont think that any company is going to go thru the trouble of vacillating over turning on/off analog. They are tird of supporting multiple technologies, especially when there are no users on analog/TDMA nor revenue.

I didn't know that there is a patch of analog only not too far from me; I dont know who owns it (ALLTEL or AT&T). But this analog patch is located in a national forest (with almost 0 population)... so I'd be surprised if anyone upgraded that area ... this area will probably have no service after the sunset date (no later than 3/31 if ALLTEL owns it, earlier if AT&T owns it). Time will tell, though.

 

hmm, why isn't oregon and washington not on the map? Are the keeping analog there or they dont have service ther or its all digital there? im confused

 

Good question.

But..does Alltel have native service there?

 

well, they claim there Americas largest network :browani:

 

I dont think that Alltel has any service in Oregon or Washngton State... If anyone gets an analog signal in these areas, maybe it's from Unicel or USCellular.

 

They can claim all they want but they have to have a license.

 

Yes they do claim that and they do.

The reason they are not in those states is because they don't have a license there right now. Just like a lot of other companies don't have networks in Montana other states etc.

 

If they shut it down all at once the call centers would probably be overloaded. Not to mention this is a pretty ambitious time table seeing how may analog only towers they still have out here. They have added digital to 1 tower in the last 2 years, now they are going to add digital to the 8 that are still analog in the next 7 months? ....whatever....

 

we will just wait and see. Time to get the last of our analog phones, any one here still use one besides me?

 

They may be including roaming partners such as VeriZon and other CDMA companies.

 

Wrong- ALLTEL's claims as to having the "nations largest wireless network" is based on the fact that the native ALLTEL network covers more square miles of the U.S. than any other carrier.
"largest" network claims are based on different things, depending on which company claims to have the largest network:

ALLTEL: Largest network by square miles covered.
AT&T: Largest network by POPs covered.

Both claims are either just as valid or just as invalid.

 

i read on wikipedia that alltel is the largest network coverage wise is because of there analog that was aquirred from western wireless. alltel better stop saying thet havr the best coverage or im gona

 

Well, No. There is a loophole here. In order to turn off analog, no coverage can be lost. BUT, desert and marsh wastelands are exempted out of that. The coverage is also calculated with stock phones. No amps, antennas or anything else that extends the range of analog.

The rural user 45 miles from the tower using an amp and yagi will not be considered as loosing coverage.
Anything under -98db analog using a dipole antenna is not considered covered.

It will still be Americas largest network, just with hard distance limits. Just because you cant call out doesn't mean the signal isn't there.

Its so fitting this all starts on presidents day/

 

Haha, yeah.....but that is wikipedia, there are literally "turf wars" for the carriers on there...it's kind of sad for all those taking part. There are not vast areas of analog only anymore, fringe yes. Sorry for you guys that are still having trouble with getting digital signal. Hopefully they have it up and running before the shutdown. 7 or 8 sites to digital can be done 7 months. The deadline may be just the excuse the local techs need to get Alltel to let them do it. It still has the largest digital network, that is there official claim and it's in the fine print as well.

 

Either way any of us want to rock the boat they are still a very large network that cover alot of area. Hell there are places that even att and verizon dont have liceanses.

 

Doing 7-8 sites isnt to hard, its probably taken them this long due to it wasnt a priority.

I can build a new Digital site in about 18 hours and that includes drive time.

My company bought a CDMA company and overlayed their entire network of 75 towers in less than 90 days.

The transition can be done it just the matter of them focusing the money, getting the equipment to some of those remote sites which will probably happen in the spring and you have be able to route the backhauls back to the CDMA switch.

 

I think most all of the 8 I speak of are analog extenders. They dont have microwave, just a yagi pointed at some other analog site. Repeater like setups.

 

I said the same thing.


Heres a link to photo of an extender being replaced with digital.


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Well I have been with alltel over 2 years, well it started out as WW. They have added digital to 1 of those towers in the past 2 years.
The extender that covers Death Valley is on a 10'000 peak, it has a radius of 100+ miles depending on the shadowing of the mountains and how high you are. I think they know they are going to have issues with that going digital. Hopefully they will configure it for extended range and not limit it to 30 miles like the rest.

 

I applied to WW back in 2002. I had 3 interviews at the office in Belluvue WA.
I applied for Handset test Engineer but didnt pan out. They they offered me my choice of tech jobs in Nebraska, Utah and somewhere else. I was stuck with a house out in WA so I couldnt take one of those jobs at the time.

I know you have analog only, CDMA only, CDMA and Analog and Some CDMA/GSM site but talking to Kurt from Nevada Microwave he said you guys had some Lucent TDMA sites?

 

If you put GSM out at the extender sites as you know those will have to be set up for extendacells.

 

Do you mean 70km half rate? Are there any of these in opperation? One other question I always had about GSM was do they ever limit it to less than 35km?
The one they did convert they put gsm and cdma on. The gsm is just standard 35km or whatever it is. The cdma was at 32 miles. I asked them if they would make it 36 so it would work at my cabin and they did. It works very good at 36 miles.

 

I would have to look up the distances for the facts but it seems like 35 miles is the standard but extended. Its not a half rate channel so to speak, when set up as an extendacell it uses 2 time slots instead of one. We have a site set up for over 80 miles and its works fine. I have seen them go less but only on test cells. You can cut the power back and add attenuation.