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Is it possible to STILL activate an analog phone?

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by cwashii, Aug 7, 2006.

  1. cwashii

    cwashii New Member

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    Hi... feel kinda outgunned here in this forum of discussion of strange acronyms.. !

    I just bought a old beat-up '90 truck for work. Lo and behold.. it has a WORKING CellularONE (!) analog phone installed in it!

    Other than just scaring my dates (did I say work?) when they climb in my truck and I start the engine and that ancient, cellular BONG! comes on, is it possible to activate an analog phone these days? Prepaid? THAT would be cool...

    Thanks!

    Anthony T.
     
  2. Andy

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    Where are you located? I'm sure some carriers out in the boonies still do but none of the big ones still do at this point from what I've heard since they are trying to get people off analog.
     
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    Between the E911 requirements and the turndown of the analog networks I'm gonna say probably not. If you do find one it'd be interesting to hear what pricing they are offering.
     
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    Because of the amount of bandwidth analog takes up and the fact that no analog phones are E911 capable, I highly doubt that any carrier would activate an analog phone on their system.
     
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    yeah isnt the E911 an FCC mandate??
     
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    Yes it is. I didn't think about that in my post.
     
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    that mandate would not apply this device that predates it...

    but it being an analog device analog still has to be maintained until 2008... its at the cariers option if they want to start a new acct...existing (acitive) ones are grandfathered


    sorta like trying to apply the California emissions law to a model t
     
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    Well I can say this if you try it on most analog carriers I bet they will tell you to take a hike. Just because you have a grandfathered phone doesnt mean they will let you use it on their network. Now if you still have a phone like this you are currently using then you are still ok.
     
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    Kind of like has already been said, I'm fairly sure that grandfathering only applies to active phones. Presumably, this phone is not currently active, and so the e911 mandate would prohibit the activation.

    I'd say I'm 80% sure of that.
     
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    Exactly. If you already had it signed up for service before the E911 mandate went into effect then that handset would be grandfathered in and exempt. As it is now, you would have almost zero chance of getting it activated. Even without activation you can still use it to call 911, so if you come up on an accident you can use it, but that is all its good for right now.

    -Jay
     
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    As of the end of 2005, 95% of the handsets on a carrier's network had to be E911 compliant. Carriers won't activate any new non-E911 compliant phones on their networks because they want to meet and/or maintain the 95%+ goal.
     
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    You can buy an existing Beyond Wireless account and then ESN swap. Just tell them it's a Nokia 3360.
     
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    MOTOhooligan Former Mobile Data Addict
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    You could do that. However, even Beyond Wireless probably has or is working on a method to determine which phones on it's network are or aren't E911 compliant. The ESN can tell you all sorts of useful information, including the model of the phone.
     
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    They can, but they don't. That's how I was able to get my AMPS StarTAC to work. The downside is if you travel you might have to change the SID. If he wants to do that, it would work. He would have to know how to program the car phone.
     
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    the 3360 is a DMN or TDMA phone...a whole different kettle of fish...
     
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    several years ago (about 3) when the company name was ATTWS thats when the no new analog devices rule came into effect...the billing system that drives the phone was changed...the analog rate plans were removed thus preventing the billing from that device and the system was altered not to allow a device change... if the company cant bill for something you can bet your bottom dollar that the call wont be placed...

    so the statement for former ATT that "we can" is untrue
     
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    Okay people, the Nokia 3360 is 850/1900 TDMA and 850 AMPS.
     
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