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Discussion in 'APPLE iPhone, iPad Tablets and all iOS Devices' started by viewfly, May 27, 2018.

  1. viewfly

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    Works with sunglasses and my hat on!!!!


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    LOL! Oh that's real secure. It might work with my face too! :LOL::LOL:
     
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    Ahh, au contraire, my French friend!

    Sit in a quiet place, have some café and give it some thought, and you will come to a different conclusion.

    Some hints:

    My Asian friends joke that we Caucasian Americans all look alike; but not for us.

    A mother always knows its child, a friend knows their friends, even in hat and sunglasses.

    My sunglasses are the identical frames as my normal glasses. My hat only covers the top of my head. It’s not using pupil ID.

    Placing a small card over my nose and mouth...and the ID does not work.

    My Cary Grant like chin is very unique

    Apple, I believe, demonstrated how it worked, even with sunglasses on at the grand opening 2 years ago.

    All this shows how detailed the Face ID really is. And amazingly fast. Perhaps a set of Jackie-O sunglasses and hat would be a problem...but then it’s works for nobody!






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    eSIM and SIM

    My XS has a physical ATT SIM in the slot. Under settings it shows two IMEI numbers, one primary and secondary.

    Out of curiosity, I’ll ask when at the Apple store. But I have no real need for knowing. I read that programming the e SIM means having the camera look at a QR code.


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    Well, that was a year ago but that's neither here nor there :p
     
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    While programming the eSIM may be as simple as scanning a QR code, the difficulty lies with having the QR code generated in the first place ;) And for that you'll need to have AT&T on board.
     
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    Yes, only 1 year. Whoops

    Of course, that goes without having to say it.



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    Really made the right decision with the XS. Size is much better for me (smaller), and next to nothing lost in screen size.

    The series 4 watch is slimmer and fits under my buttoned long sleeve more easily too.


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    Face ID has been flawless. Daylight, pitch dark, two different eyeglasses, under covers, up close, arms length away. And in various lighting conditions. Warm, cool and shadows.

    Sweaty face, just out of the shower. , morning or night. Flawless.

    Much better than finger ID. And works very well with apps that use it. Seems more apps use it than I felt that finger ID did.


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    That is an interesting observation considering that:
    • Any app that supports Touch ID automatically supports Face ID
    • Any app that supports Face ID automatically supports Touch ID

    Most likely just more apps supporting biometric authentication as time goes by.
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    Mostly likely your last paragraph is correct.

    However, I have also observed this phenomenon on web page log ins: i have passwords for webpages in my password keychain. When I say, yes, use the saved username/password, the Face ID animation comes up.

    Is that using Face ID? Previously I did not have to use Finger ID, in iOS 11 at least. So maybe this is a iOS 12 feature? This thought just occurred to me. So I just tried to used my iPad Finger ID ( now running iOS 12) on a stored web page login, and it now DOES asked for my fingerprint. That is new. And this is different than using finger ID for the various keychain IDs. Maybe I’m not explaining myself well to those that don’t use this feature.

    So that explains my feeling that Face ID is being used more. But it may be linked to iOS 12.

    What do you know on this?


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    So basically there's a biometric authentication API that apps can use. Once an app enables biometric authentication it will support all biometrics available on that device.
    Keychain access uses a slightly different API but the same approach.
    So for instance if Apple added another biometric ID, say a voice print next year then today's apps will be able to take advantage of that without having to change the code.

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    However, I’m observing the use of the ID’s for safari web page log on’s (not apps) for paying my electric bill, credit Cards, etc. This seems to be new in iOS 12, and I, mistakenly perhaps, thought this was the greater use of Face over finger ID. It appears that Apple increase the sphere of usage under 12 for both.

    Is that what you know, also?

    In any case, a wonderful feature have on the iPhone X series


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    Is it different from the way Safari can use the Touch ID to fill in your password on the banking site? I've never tried it until now so can't say if it's new to Safari on iOS 12, but it offers that to me on the 6+ using the Touch ID.

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    My bet is VF won't see any degradation. Apparently AT&T users see an improvement, it's the VZW lot that suffers.

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    Oh that’s interesting. So the Intel chip in the AT&T devices last year was sub par to the new Intel chip? Together with the fact Qualcomm was better, or is it something entirely different?


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    Don't know, I just read the article at the link you posted

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    It depends. This has been my experience under iOS 11: one of two things happen. Either 1) I tap the username box on a website say of my utility company, and the safari asks if I wish to use the log in info stored in the keychain; I say yes, it fill in the info and no fingerprint required or 2) if it doesn’t know the password, it asks if I wish to access the long list of passwords I have; to access that, I need to use my fingerprint.

    Under 12, in the first case, if I say yes, it uses the password and my Face ID to enter the info. So that is different.


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    No I haven’t seen anything obvious. But I haven’t try to make any observations either.

    I did see the headline, but doesn’t this happen with every launch? That and battery life. I thought to let the dust settle a bit first, before over thinking it.


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    So for me it showed the password icon on the keyboard and when I hit that it asked for the touch id, then filled the password. Did not show me the list of passwords at any time.
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    Never had that under 11. Maybe some setting was not flipped on, and is now for 12. Idk


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    It doesn't really matter. What matters is that there's more and more support for biometric authentication :)
     
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    Right, it’s doesn’t. I’m sort of glad that I didn’t need my fingerprint for every web page before. I assumed that once my iPad was opened, it was just allowing me access to my web passwords.

    The Face ID is so much faster and easier, so it works well.


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    Rereading the thread, I saw the post about the eSIM. On my Pixel 3 it asked if i wanted to setup the eSIM. I said yes and then it asked me to select my carrier, and voila it was setup. I would guess Apple will be like that next time, meaning no need for a QR code.
     
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