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Discussion in 'APPLE iPhone, iPad Tablets and all iOS Devices' started by oldkyman, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. oldkyman

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    i need some help with my wife's iphone 3g,ever since day 1 we have not been
    able to use the bluetooth,i have tried to pair it to 5 differant phone's
    and 3 differant headsets,when in pairing mode both phone's reconized
    each other and we put the code 00000 in,her iphone shows all the phone's
    and headsets,but when i tried to send a pic from any of the phones i get
    unable to connect to "wife's name"iphone,when i try to send a pic from the
    iphone it doesn't give that option, and all of the differant heads sets will not
    connect.att corp.store in town no help,and says there is nothing wrong with
    the phone,is there a setting that i'm missing? or is this smart phone dumb?
     
  2. M in LA

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    Unlike the LG you use and most other manufacturer's phones, Apple has not enabled Bluetooth OBEX (Object Exchange) on the iPhone, which is why you can't transfer pictures and other things through Bluetooth.

    See here: iPhone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I know when I had the original iPhone, if I turned my headset off (to save battery life), it would not automatically connect when I turned it back on, unlike what occurs on other phones I've owned. I always had to select the headset from the Bluetooth profile to connect it again. I found this to be a pain. I don't know if things have improved with the 3G and 3G S versions.
     
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    thanks for the help, and no nothing has changed in 3g, personally
    apple could not give me one of the things, i'll take my vue over this any day.
    thanks again,oh btw, my wife did say "well you told not to buy this thing"
    but i wasn't going to rub it in.
     
  4. viewfly

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    I guess that issue has been fixed. I don't use BT very much, but I did just this Monday. My HS700 BT was off for months, battery discharged. I charged it, turn on the BT on the iPhone, and they both paired automatically. During the day, I turned it on/off several times, and it paired just fine.

    oldkyman:

    Mobile Mike is correct in that Apple only supports BT for headset use and also stereo headset, but not for file transfer. I don't know why, but it may have to do with preventing itunes files being transferred illegally.

    But there are many better ways to transfer photos that go more than the 30 foot limit of BT. Since iPhones require the unlimited data plan, you can email photos to and from. If you have an MMS package, that can be used too. Also, you can upload directly to YouTube, and other photo sharing sites, like Flikr, facebook, etc. It can also be done using Wifi.

    To preserve the full resolution of the photo, emailing a photo is the best way. There are 2 ways to email. Within the photo gallery of the iphone, selecting the photo and then 'copying' and 'pasting' into your email gives the full resolution. Selecting just to send via email may reduce the photo resolution due to carrier limitations and protocols. In both methods you can select multiple photos to send.

    You can read how to do all these things by going to the iPhone manual that is bookmarked in the safari browser on the iphone

    I prefer these methods over BT because 1) people are not always 30 feet away nor 2) have the BT turned on. But I understand it is a lacking feature you may be used to.

    Good luck.
     
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    I have to say that the most commonly used OBEX application for me is to send/receive address book entries and ring tones. Most of the time the other phone is not a smartphone or doesn't have a data plan. And frankly, disabling OBEX to prevent copyright violations is akin to making cars with only two gears to prevent speeding in residential zones ;) Every phone I had would refuse to send copyrighted material over BT, email, MMS or what not by checking the digital rights and it is certainly within Apple's development abilities to do the same.
     
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    mms and email works for me.
     
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    Via Bluetooth?
     
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    all we wanted her to be able to do is to send the pic's
    she took on her phone and transfer them to mine because
    i have a scandisk card in my phone,i think if if they was going to
    block this from being done the least they would have done
    is to put a card slot in the iphone,as far as the headset goes
    i have tried to others last night......no go,how do people in states
    with laws that you can't hold your phone and talk while driving
    manage this problem? thank goodness ky is not one of those
    states.why wife knows about 12 people that own these things,
    they all have the same problem,and she admitted that she should
    have ask them more question's before she bought it,because att
    is sure not going to tell you anything before you buy and the close's
    iphone store is about 4 1/2 hr drive from us,(like it would do any good.)
    she did buy insurance on the phone for lost stolen or damage,from our
    ins.company,good thing she did that,i got a filling the phone may fall
    out of her purce and under the wheel of my truck.
     
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    oldkyman, how about E-Mailing the pictures from her iPhone to your computer and you copy it from the computer on to your storage disk. I know it is a bit of a pain, specially if you have to buy a card reader for your computer, but it is a workaround.
    That would be my situation as well. :)
     
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    that is the way we have been doing her pic's,and your right it is a pain,
    also if anyone can sugguest a headset that they know works,it would be a great
    help,i still thow some blame at att for not telling her of these problems.
     
  11. viewfly

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    Let me see if I understand this: you want to move a photo on her iPhone to a computer (hers or yours). And you want to do that by sending it to your phone first , move it onto a scandisk on your phone, and then put that scandisk into the computer (yours or hers) to upload it to the computer?

    Why doesn't she just email the photo from her iPhone to her own email address (or yours)? You just read your email on the PC, download the photo to your or her computer? There is no need for using the scandisk.

    Does that make sense??? Seems a lot simpler and quicker too than using BT and your scandisk.

    Regarding the BT headset, they all will work. You must me doing a setup mistake. I use a Motorola HS700 BT. Apple sells many others on their website (and ATT too) that will all work. Now, one thing that may not work on the BT sets, is pressing a BT button on the headset to activate voice dialing. You use the voice dialing on the iPhone (pressing and holding the home key) or just dial the number on the iPhone. It will connect and also ask you if you wish to use the BT headset, speaker phone, or internal microphone.

    dmapr, Charlyee:

    From the Apple contacts/address application, there is a one touch button to email or mms the .vcf address file to anyone with a non-smartphone. The same way that Nokia has been doing it for years. Pretty simple. The circle of people who understand BT and how to use it , is far less than those that know email or mms. The .vcf file will go directly to the phones address book, or on your pc phone book (outlook, etc).

    dmapr: so if it is not a legal issue, any ideas why apple doesn't use OBEX?
     
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    viewfly, I believe he wants to transfer pictures from his iPhone to his phone and put it on the storage disk in his phone. Since the iPhone doesn't support OBEX file transfer he is having to use a computer to achieve this.

    oldkyman, please correct me if I am wrong.
    No data plan and/or data blocked on the receiving device. :)
     
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    Sort of hard to figure out what he wants to do. But I don't read it the same way you do.

    You can always email to a MMS address. They have no SMS capability? Gee, just tell them your phone number then, they don't need much more info.:rolleyes:

    Surprised they got a phone with BT even...
     
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    viewfly, I am ashamed to say don't know how Nokia does it since I never used the email or messaging option to send contact information. Messaging would cost me money and data would often cost money to my recipients (and occasionally to me as well, when I'm outside US).

    As for why Apple doesn't include OBEX — I am at a loss. It could be that they were strapped for time during the original release and then never made time for it while working on new features (I know the iPhone team works quite hard and OBEX is unlikely to be a high priority item), but it could also be that Steve Jobs has bad associations brought on by the mention of the word (I heard that the reason iPhone doesn't have a user-changeable battery is because SJ doesn't like slits/cracks in the device body...) :) It could be that they felt arrogant and decided that the most common use would be transfer between two phones or phone and computer, so as long as they covered iPhone-to-iPhone and iPhone-to-Mac/Mac-to-iPhone transfer via other methods they're golden. Throw in a Windows PC for good measure and they're total over-achievers. In short, I can not think of any reason that would make sense to me as a fellow software developer...
     
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    ok i think i got this thing figured out, contacts:put in manually,pic's:to home computer's email,
    headset:must dial manually or from contact,because of
    no voice reconition,or 1 button dial,but she can ans.a call
    though bluetooth by pushing the headset button,so because
    she has a windsield mount cell phone holder,and speaker
    phone,bluetooth is useless when driving, so feel free to
    jump in and tell me where i'm wrong,please.
     
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    Well if you bought the 3GS, you are wrong. Use the center button on your BT device to make a call from the BT device with voice calling.

    Phone

    Voice Dialing
    You can use Voice Control (iPhone_3GS only) to call someone in your contacts or dial a specific number.

    NOTE:__Voice Control isn’t available in all languages.

    Use Voice Control to make phone calls:_ Press and hold the Home button until the Voice Control screen appears and you hear a beep. Then use the commands described below to make calls.
    You can also press and hold the center button on the iPhone headset (or the equivalent button on your Bluetooth headset) to use Voice Control.

    Call someone in contacts
    Say “call” or “dial” then say the name of the person. If the person has more than one number, specify which one you want to call.

    Examples:

    Call John Appleseed
    Call John Appleseed at home
    Call John Appleseed, mobile
    Dial a number
    Say “call” or “dial,” then say the number.

    For best results, speak the full name of the person you’re calling. If you give only the first name, and you have more than one contact with that same name, iPhone asks which of those contacts you want to call. If there’s more than one number for the person you’re calling, specify which number to use. If you don’t specify which number, iPhone asks you which one to use.

    When voice dialing a number, speak each digit separately—for example, say “four one five, five five five, one two one two.”

    NOTE:__For the “800” area code in the U.S., you can say “eight hundred.”

    Prevent voice dialing when iPhone is locked:_ In Settings, choose General > Passcode Lock and turn Voice Dial off. Unlock iPhone to use voice dialing.
     
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    For contacts, there are many ways. Plus the ATT Store can do it for you. You can also synch from outlook.

    Adding Contacts
    You can add contacts to iPhone in the following ways:

    In iTunes, sync contacts from Google or Yahoo!, or sync with applications on your computer (see Syncing)
    Set up MobileMe or Microsoft Exchange accounts on iPhone, with Contacts enabled (see Setting Up Accounts)
    Install a profile that sets up an Exchange account, with Contacts enabled (see Installing Configuration Profiles)
    Set up an LDAP account on iPhone
    Enter contacts directly on iPhone
    Import contacts from a SIM
    The number of contacts you can add is limited only by the amount of memory on iPhone.

    Set up an LDAP account:
    In Settings, tap “Mail Contacts, Calendars,” then tap Add Account.
    Tap Other, then tap Add LDAP Account.
    Enter your LDAP account information and tap Next to verify the account.
    Tap Save.
    When you set up an LDAP account, you can view and search for contacts on your company or organization’s LDAP server. The server appears as a new group in Contacts. Since LDAP contacts aren’t downloaded to iPhone, you must have an Internet connection to view them. Check with your system administrator for specific account settings and other requirements (such as VPN).

    Import contacts from another phone’s SIM:_ In Settings, tap “Mail, Contacts, Calendars,” then tap Import SIM Contacts.
    The contact information on the SIM is imported to iPhone. If you have Contacts enabled for both MobileMe and Microsoft Exchange, you’re prompted to choose which account you want to add the SIM contacts to.

    IMPORTANT:__iPhone doesn’t store contacts on its SIM.
     
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    she's has the iphone 3g,no s you guy's have been great, i have learned a lot.
    sounds like she should have spent another 100.$ and got the S it would have
    made things a lot easier.
     

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