iPhone 3G Jailbroken and Unlocked!

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i knew it would happen. but that was pretty fast.

 

Can we get these two threads merged? Just a thought...

 

I really don't think Apple cares anymore about unlocking. They get the same amount of money weather a phone is used on ATT or not whereas (just as we all know) before they got a cut of the monthly fees.

I wonder how long before Apples starts to sell an unlocked, unbranded version. I give it two years.

 

I would guess 4 years. I think AT&T has a 5 year exclusivity contract which would imply no unlocked phones.

 

5 years... I guess that pretty much kills the idea of a CDMA model. By the time Apple can sell to CDMA carriers, most of them will have started building their LTE networks.

-Jay

 

It's a shame that as much as Apple gets their own way, they went with a 5 year contract (if the rumors are true, since I haven't seen an actual acknowledgement of that). It's funny when VZW reps tell me that they'll be getting the iPhone soon too. I don't usually use soon to mean at least 4 years.

Edit: http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/iphone-5-year-att-exclusive-no-cdma/2007-05-23

 

Money talks!

Also, they could just sell it unlocked via another country, and "leak" the loophole to third party sites. Not that it takes rocket science to figure that one out.

I know they do want to discourage jailbreaking the phone, so this would be an easy way to reduce demand for jailbreaking phones, at least for those who just want an unlocked iPhone.

When it comes down to it, the consumers have a more powerful influence than anybody else. They control the money . Just look at the recent changes in contract practices.

 

honestly whats the point for someone in the US to unlockk it? it wouldnt do any good on any other networks domestically. yea maybe in europe but you can buy it there... i guess its just something people do just to do.

 

Well TMO is starting their 3G network in very limited markets. Right now though AT&T really is the only carrier with a network to support it.
It will work on TMO's GSM network, but what's the point? You might as well just buy the older model. I wonder how many are being dumped on Ebay right now because people upgraded to the 3G model?

-Jay

 

Two bad nobody can find or download the unlocking software for 3 more weeks.

 

I'm using a 3G iPhone in a 2G area. There wouldn't be much difference with going to T-Mobile, but data is only $20 and you can get a low minute plan for $30 (save $20/month) or get myFaves. A lot of places have wi-fi and many people are willing to accept that. THAT is the market for unlocked iPhones. There are also other small carriers out there, probably serving areas with no AT&T service. There's a LOT more to the iPhone than 3G data.

Original iPhones are still going for ridiculous prices on eBay. You can pay $199 (iPhone) + $70 (1 month service) + $175 (ETF) and have a brand new iPhone, or you can get shafted on eBay for $500 for an original iPhone and buyer beware the whole time.

The main reason I bought my iPhone was for the Contacts and a better way to check football scores when I'm at a game on Saturdays. I'll use everything else and I wish I had 3G, but its not an issue at the moment. I will get to see 3G while I drive through Atlanta, Chattanooga, and Nashville, with a few visits to Knoxville!

 

it wouldnt be compatible with TMOB's 3G network. theirs will be 1700/2100. i could be off, but im 99.9% sure the phone isnt compatible.

 

You are correct--the iPhone has UMTS support on 850/1900/2100, but not 1700 AWS.

Its still possible that T-Mobile could decide to use 1900 for 3G in some areas, despite their publicly stated plans to use 1700 AWS for 3G (its a long shot). NYC capacity issues actually necessitated 1700 AWS. Once T-Mobile starts selling 3G service, they would really benefit from offering a single channel of 1900 UMTS where they have the spectrum. Even if it was speed limited, they could make a lot of people happy.

 

IM sure Tmobile will follow the what most carriers do when changing technology. As more customers are migrated from GSM to UMTs it will clear Spectrum and they will dual band towers.

 

I looked on for the original iphone and its a joke, even refurbed (used) iphones were going $500 for unlocked versions. I can get a HTC 8525 or Tilt with a modified ROM and so much more.
It goes to show its all about the hype.

 

I'm afraid that by the time they get UMTS rolled out on 1700, even LTE will be getting old.

I think the 1700 announcement is really to get more 1700 handsets out there to ease the spectrum load. They're probably hoping to get a bunch of 1900 UMTS handsets out there incidentally, in which case they can start with a single 1900 channel as available. I said it before, T-Mobile is sitting on a ton of spectrum here in Middle GA--they should have been using it for something.

 

GA as a market has come a long way for alot of companys. TMOB has basically maintained what Powertel and Voicestream built and thats it. most of the competition has caught up to or passed them (espscially in data services).. this says alot considering they were one of the first providers in much of GA.

 

Once the 3G is unlocked, I may consider getting one at the non-upgrade price of $399/499. I can unlock it and give it to my wife on T-Mobile to use until her contract ends next May. We'd save $10/month on the data and possibly on the texts too (400 on T-Mobile vs 200 on AT&T). No 3G service here, so it wouldn't be much of an issue. If we had 3G, it would be better to just pay the $200 ETF and get the $199/299 pricing...

 

I know that they are two separate things. I was just under the impression that you had to jailbreak the phone first to unlock it. My point is that I believe (no evidence, just assumption) they care more about jailbreaking than unlocking because it gives them less revenue. If they offer it unlocked in another country, it will make its way back home to the U.S. and they can turn a blind eye to it.

Or they could just pay off ATT, but I am doubtful they will do that.

Yea, and that is why I can't use them. My entire famly is on T-Mo, but they just don't work for me.

 

two things...

yes T-Mobile is caring more about capacity and coverage rather than data application


and also T-Mobile is deploying UMTS on 2100 as well but maybe not in all markets

 

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, I'm waiting until a more definitive jailbreak/unlock software is available before updating.

Also, when I unlocked and jailbroke my iPhone, it came with a 3rd party application software setup, so I can wait to officially update to the 2.0 version.

 

wait wait wait

you're saying that pwnage tool will unlock first generation 1.0 and 2.0 but not 3G 2.0???

 

I don't see the GSM 1900 being shut down anytime soon, due to the potential loss of roaming revenue. Not until UMTS/LTE becomes prevalent in the rest of the world to the point where the phones will have the support for US frequencies the same way 1900MHz GSM can be found in all but most bottom of the line phones these days.

 

yeah.....GSM is a little too standard worldwide at this point. until every carrier in the U.S. has a decent 3G network set up......CDMA and GSM arent headed out.....yeah maybe like 2020 or 2025 but thats a little ways off