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Have Cellphones gotten boring?

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by RadioRaiders, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. RadioRaiders

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    When my wifes contract re-newed last month, I went with her to pick out a new cellphone. Usually that was something I would look forward to. I love to reel down spec lists and pick a phone that's packed with all the best features. Even if I never use half of them, I like to know they are there "just in case", or maybe even just for "bragging rights" ;).

    But this time I felt really apathetic about picking a phone. They all looked basically the same. Rectagular slabs of glass and all with pretty much the same features. Now-a-days even the low-end smartphones have wifi, cameras, etc. So picking a phone became more an issue of choosing an OS: Apple, Android or Windows. I pushed my wife a little to get a Windows phone, because I'm interested to see what it's about, but in the end my wife wanted Android, simply because she's used to it. I at least pushed her to a LTE-enabled phone, but not that it will really make a difference to her, 3G is fast enough for checking mails and occasional surfing. LTE won't even be in our area until end of the year at best anyway.

    And that's pretty much what choosing a phone these days is all about: picking a rectangular slab of glass, that's marginally different from all the others,and that has an OS that you are familiar with. Where's the fun in that? :confused:
     
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    I was eyeing the HTC One to replace my Vivid. I was supposed to upgrade this month, but thanks to AT&T's new upgrade policy, I probably won't be able to get a new phone till around Christmas. :( By that time, the One will have probably been superseded by a newer, "greater" phone. There's nothing wrong with the Vivid right now, I'd just like to get a new phone, and pass the Vivid to my dad, and he can ditch the Inspire. Nothing wrong with the Inspire either, just doesn't have LTE.
     
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    Occasionally you'll run into a slab of glass that can also operate your TV and enjoy that for a few minutes :)
     
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    Interesting question RadioRaiders. It seems that ever since smartphones hit the market, form factor has pretty much stagnated. But that is due to the nature of the product. Think of other display devices such as a TV or computer monitor. A vendor may try to "class it up" by adding trim and decor to it, but for the most part it is flat slate. Although I've criticized (on another site) designers for not coming up with new form ideas, really the next step is more miniaturization (such as "Glass" and Dick Tracy wrist watches). After that, implants might be the next technology. (I always thought the we were the cause of our own demise with the intro of Star Trek's "Borg." Once we commercialize the link between the human brain and electronics -- such as experimental projects are doing today -- it will only be a little time before we willingly yet stupidly make ourselves Borg.) But for now, regarding smartphones, informed buyers are no longer focusing on form but on internal hardware specs and apps. It really comes down to the service-ability of the product. Although flipphones ruled the market for while, they were nothing compared to what can be done with today's smartphones. Anybody out there want to give up their smartphone for a good-looking flipphone? LOL
     
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    Well, there are some Porsche looking phones out there, not to mention luxury brands ;-)

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    Jay, I believe that only those whose 2 year contract is up March 2014 or later will be affected. So you should be able to upgrade now.




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    Yea, I think buying a phone now is about as exciting as buying a TV or washing machine. In the last 10-15 years cellphones have evolved so rapidly I got used to seeing new and exciting models coming out every year. But now I guess it's hit a plateau and leveled off. Now a smartphone is just another daily appliance. Nothing to get too excited about.

    I think you are right, the next step is something like that, and we are seeing glimpses with Google's glasses and Apples watch. But at the moment it's still in it's very early stages, maybe in 10-20 years it will mature enough to have a real impact on peoples lives the same way smartphones have done today. Until then I guess changing TV channels with your phone is about as fun as it gets ;)
     
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    Very interesting topic. It seems that mobile phones have somewhat hit a wall. The devices overall are identical...as one pointed out, rectangular slabs with glass, apps and connectivity. I can easily see how people step back and say wtf...this is sooo boring and say getting the next phone is nothing exciting to look forward to anymore. I think with the Google Glass and Apple's iWatch...that direction is where the next big products will be. However, I see visual communications is something I see on the horizon.

    Does anyone here remember watching Gene Roddenberry's 'Earth: Final Conflict'? If so, remember the "globals" they used? I think that is where we are headed next. We got Skype, FaceTime, etc. now, but instead of voice only communication, when one wants to "talk" to another, it will be visual just like in that show.
     
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    I suppose in the Android world, choosing a smartphone also involves picking one that supports the latest food group OS from Google. And selecting a screen size.

    Otherwise, I have one word. 'Cases'. Pick a phone that gives you the most interesting case options. And accessories too. That way you can change the case and feel like you have a new and individual device. I'm seeing more and more bunny eared phones out there- but in different colors and jewels. LOL

    Seriously, it does help. I use to like Nokia because of all the neat accessories. Now it's stuff for my iPhone.

    I seem to spend more time looking at cases than new phones in stores these days.
     
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    I used to buy OtterBox cases for my phones, but then the added bulk started getting on my nerves, and then I asked myself "why am I protecting something that's basically a disposable device?" (get a new one free every 2 years), so I stopped using them all together, and my phones have been fine.
     
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    I put cases on my phones (been iPhones) so keep them in excellent shape...no scratches, etc. That way, I can get the best possible resell value. Lol.
     
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    Agreed. I bought an OtterBox for my Note 2 but I found myself switching batteries often... And the case isn't built for constant removals. I do use an OEM case for my phone and it adds almost no bulk. While I won't be getting a phone on a promotional deal, I do have insurance (I paid retail for this thing)... I have to have something on it.

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    I gave up on using cases, too.
     
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    Well it goes quite clearly that no one uses an OtterBox to spruce up a phone. Just protection. I'm talking about cases that look good and protect one's phone for resale or just for personal appreciation. Something to made make it individual.

    There are not many, if any, higher end phones for free from carriers anymore.
     
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    I guess I am saying I went from protection to fashion. I kinda liked the OtterBox as a fashion statement though :p. And I agree, upper echelon phones aren't free... They may become free when something else takes its place, but that's not guaranteed either.

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    I rarely re-sell my old phones, after 2 years they are barely worth anything anyway. I usually just give them away or keep it as a backup.
    I actually dug the ruggedized look of the OtterBox, but maybe that's just me :cool: True, top-end newest-of-the-new phones usually cost an extra $100-200 with a 2-year contract, but you can get decent mid-range or last years top-models for free or next to free ($50 or something). Which is usually what I take as it's the best compromise of cost/quality.
     
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    Cellphones have not gotten boring for me, new features are always getting added and specs bumped up. The shapes are similar but I don't ever recall getting or not getting a phone based on its looks anyway. :)
    Two years? People keep their phones for 2 years? :D I have barely cleared one year with two of my devices that to not recently. If I make 10 months I am happy.

    The resale value depends on the phone of course, Steve is talking about his iPhone and quick search of e-bay shows the 4 selling for around $200 and the 4s for around $400. That's an almost 2 and almost 3 year phone and for the 16 gb model. If it is unlocked the price shoots up. So it is definitely worth it to keep it in good condition.

    Just my 2 cents :)



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    Well iPhones hold the value for a good while. Plus, on Craigslist, some schmuck is usually willing to overpay anyway. =) At the very least, I sell to cover the cost I paid for the upgrade. Though, I always have ended up with more then that. =)
     
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    +1 to this. I do go for looks though too. :)

    Not bored at all with new phone offerings.




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    I guess I do also, not so much the looks but more the physical shape and size. One of the reasons I chose the 820 over the 920 and also not excited by the phablets. :)




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    This was probably the most interesting thread (at least in my mind) that I've here in the recent past. Bravo to RadioRaiders for starting it. (I wasn't too happy to see that it morphed into a discussion about phone cases. To me, that wasn't interesting. Just saying....)
     
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    If the most exciting thing about phones these days is the cases, then I think my original point has been validated ;)
     
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    I surely don't have a problem with that statement. To me, the only thing exciting about phones is the initial ooohhh and ahhhh of a new design (i.e. iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4) and that quickly fades and accessories. The overall operation of the smartphone is with apps...that doesn't change. What's left? Lol.
     
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    Granted the designs are subtle today, but with interesting materials and combinations, plus new glass, screen technology I find the engineering intriguing, and am not at a loss for fascination whatsoever. Flips were tiresome too. So were the other choices...candy bars.

    Airplanes are basically cylinders/tubes with wings. The size of the wing in proportion to the tube may change, but the material science, carbon fibers, etc holds my interest.

    Of course, as SteveB said, it is what is inside and the software that hold our attention.

    So no, I'm not bored. Regarding cases, who can argue or turn a cold shoulder to the Snowy case for the iPhone? ;)

    Snowy

    Too bad you're not happy KevinJames about the thread, the thread is just fine. Not sorry for adding some humor to lighten up the topic.
     
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    Here's an article that reflects the same thought as my original post:

    Moto X and the era of the 'good enough' smartphone - The Globe and Mail
     
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    I like that term, good enough. Ever since I got my Note 2 (back in February), I have been pleased with it... I got it as the S4 was looming. The Note 2 may be passé, but it gets the job done for me. The phone hypebeasts haven't gotten me overly curious at the current or upcoming offerings. I know several folks who are happy with their older iPhone 4 devices... And one even has a Droid X (the one that is on Android 2.3)

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    I beg to differ. :)

    I do not like the term "good enough", sounds like a lazy student with a C grade IMHO. Lol

    Having said that, something's are probably good enough, a computer that does what one needs to do doesn't need to be updated all the time. Maybe even tablets, my iPad 2 is 2+ years old and I don't have a compelling interest in upgrading that.

    However in the cell phone world most people, specially the ones that like to keep up with technology are not going to settle for "good enough".

    Your N2 cannot be classified as passé, there is no N3 yet. The S4 is not in the same category, where is the S Pen on that? :D

    Yes true many people are staying with an older version but not necessarily actively buying an older version after new versions become available or something with "lesser" specs when they are ready to buy and can afford it.

    As always my two cents.




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    I am not expecting OEMs to remain static in device development (if they were, we'd still be in the stone age of flip phones and candy bar Nokia phones) ... And of course people will end up upgrading sooner or later... I bet some of us would like some revolutionary design to come out but no one has done it... Either that or revolutionary has become so ordinary that no one notices anymore.

    Those who want the hot phone will get it now or wait for the next biggest thing.

    And Charlyee, my phone is passé because the S4 has a later release of Android. :rolleyes: But passé doesn't mean horrible.

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    I think "good enough" means that specs of top end and mid-range phones have gotten so close it's not really noticeable. If you gave me a phone with a dual-core 1.5Gz processor or a quad-core 3Ghz processor, I don't know if I'd really notice the difference because I don't really use any apps that need that kind of processing power. If I have a screen of 350ppi or one with 500ppi, is it really noticeable to the human eye? I've been using a Droid 3 for the last year with Android 2.2, not LTE and a ppi of under 300, and I'm actually fine with that, because it does everything I need it to do.
     
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    Agreed 100%
    Of course passé doesn't mean horrible, but it does mean "has been". Brett Favre's futile efforts with the Vikings come to mind here.:evillaugh

    What I am saying is that your phone and S4 are not in the same category and just because the S4 has a later release of OS doesn't make yours passé. Heck, with your definition and Android fragmentation over 50% of the phones would be passé when they launch including the Moto-X, wait until the Note 3 launches before you call it passe'.
    Assuming dmapr is human (although I have no proof for this assumption :D), then yes it is noticeable and it does make matter.

    As to you having a Droid 3 with 2.2, all I can say is you are not the norm amongst techies and wannabe techies that I normally hang around with. ;)
     
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