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GSM/GPRS/EDGE/......ETC.

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by QueDog, Oct 12, 2002.

  1. QueDog

    QueDog New Member

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    Hi everyone.

    I have Cingular, will we be able to make regular phone calls in the future with the same handsets we have now? When GSM goes 4th or 5th generation. Thanks in advance.[​IMG]
     
  2. Carajo

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    Depends how you define 3rd, 4th or 5th generation [​IMG]

    We can say that GSM is 2G and GPRS is 2.5G and if the GSM operator decideds to goto EDGE you might consider that 3G or they can go directly to UMTS (3G).

    In the future you will need new handsets for each jump..... just as you needed for GPRS and will need for EDGE and UMTS.
     
  3. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden Senior Member
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    Yes, you will need new handsets for the new data features, but you should still be able to make regular voice calls with a present-day plain-vanilla GSM handset, shouldnt you? I think that was the real question he was asking.
     
  4. Carajo

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    Oh sorry......... In a GSM network and voice only you will be fine with today's handsets.... but not for the new data services (depending on the service)

    As for 3G woth UMTS (WCDMA) you will need a new handset though....
     
  5. QueDog

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    Thanks i wanted to make sure the i could use the 888, and 6340 for at least another 5 or 6 years.
     
  6. jmccrane

    jmccrane Bronze Senior Member
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    I'd be impressed if you get 5-6 years out of your phones anyway. It's likely that they'll either break or you'll be enticed by a nice offer in a couple years, but that's just my opinion [​IMG]
     
  7. aiwapro

    aiwapro Silver Senior Member
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    Uhh, I don't think 3G (W-CDMA, and definitely not EDGE or UMTS) will take 5-6 years, well maybe with Cingualr it will. It won't take that long with T-Mobile.
     
  8. Rasputin

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    T-Mobile needs spectrum first, so does Cingular, the only advantage of a Cingular - T-Mobile merge is they might have enough spectrum to piece together a 3G system years from now once they convert the TDMA to GSM upgrade to EDGE.

    Spectrum Spectrum, you need a lot for WCDMA
     
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  9. Kenny

    Kenny Senior Member
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    The Europeans appear to be having a damn tough time sorting out the logistics, implementation and deployment of WCDMA. AT&T just announced plans to ease up their schedule for WCDMA.

    What is slowing things down besides the daunting technical task is the market desire and demand...which has been soft for full-blown data services. Do we know what T-Mobile USA's plans are for WCDMA? They'll need more spectrum.
     
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    Don't hold your breath especially considering the FCC's track record.
     
  11. aiwapro

    aiwapro Silver Senior Member
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    I understand all of that, but you can't tell me it will cost less for T-Mobile to upgrade Cingular's network from TDMA to GSM/GPRS, and then to 3G; than it would to just upgrade T-Mobile's own network fomr GSM to 3G. Right now, T-Mobile has nothing at all to do with TDMA and I'm sure they don't want to. It's a thing of the past.
     
  12. Kenny

    Kenny Senior Member
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    So what do you think is the expected timeframe for T-mobile to have their own towers/cellsites/network built in California? Of course AT&T's GSM network isn't as good as T-mobile's but aren't you the least impressed with how fast they've covered the major cities? Imagine how good their network will be when and if they aggressively add GSM 850Mhz?

    Like I've been saying all this time and in recent postings...Of course T-mobile wouldn't want to share the task of a TDMA->GSM migration but I'm sure they would love to have the expansive coverage that 800/850Mhz spectrum provides right now and plus GSM equipment providers are pushing out GSM 850Mhz equipment right now, including phones that will support this.
     
  13. spyder22

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    Right now the idea within the GSM alliance is to still offer GSM service while the carriers offer EDGE/WCDMA. Nokia just came out with a phone that is both WCDMA and GSM capable. We will start to see alot of these since WCDMA and EDGE networks will most likely only be built in large cities. So even in the future you will still be able to use your old GSM phones, at the least to make a voice call. If you want the cool features and the high data speeds..then you will have to fork out the bucks for a new phone.
     

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