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Emergency Hand-Crank Battery Chargers

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by R32VW, Jul 10, 2004.

  1. R32VW

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    I'm thinking about getting one of the following hand-crank battery chargers for emergency use:

    SideWinder Portable Power Cell Phone Charger ($24.95, not including S&H)

    Haimei Handy Crank Charger +FM Radio (price is unknown at this time)

    I would keep either of these chargers in my car along with my TDMA Nokia 3360 & SE T637 (GSM). Has anybody had any experiences using hand-crank chargers? Also, since my AT&T TDMA service is not active what do I need to know about making it (the 3360) "emergency-ready"?

    Thanks for looking. :)
     
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  2. RichXKU

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    I believe you can convert your 3360 to a prepaid phone.

    Those emergency chargers are such a good idea if they don't break easily.
     
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    I really do not want to rain on your parade, but are they safe? We are constantly warned to use OEM. We have also, read, right here, about a phone exploding. When you charge a battery with OEM, there is a safety mechanisism, that shuts off to prevent overcharge and explosion. I think that most places where you have the phone you should be able to charge with a travel charger or an automobile charger.
     
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    Rich, these are just chargers. They are not aftermarket batteries. The safety mechanism to prevent overcharging is in the phone itself, not in the chargers.
     
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    Speaking of charging, is it bad for me to always be charging my phone constantly? I plug it in atleast 5 times a day in and out.
     
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    I stand corrected and appreciate the information.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion but I want the 3360 to be available for emergency use only. Don't AT&T's prepaid "plans" have an expiry date (usually 30 days)? This would sort of negate the whole concept of emergency use, IMO.
     
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    It sounds to me that you are unnecessarily charging the battery. I would recommend charging only when the battery indicator shows 1 bar. Also, it's a good idea to give the battery a full and uninterrupted charge, as opposed to numerous partial charges, which it sounds like you are doing.
     
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    I do the same thing. I believe numerous partial charges will eventually shorten the overall life of the battery. Now, what really damages a battery is a charger that tries to charge the battery too fast. This only leads to harmful overheating. A low voltage charger, will be slower, but healthier for the battery.
     
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  10. Shizam76

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    R32VW....I can't let it go to 1 bar.....if I do that, the phone wil definately go dead when I need it. I usually charge when I get to 3 bars (out of 7). 1 bar left for me is like having 5-10 minutes left to talk....who knows where I will be then, so I like to be safe.
     
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    I was going to say 1 or 2 bars but I chose 1 bar merely to make my point. One or 2 bars, probably 2 in your case, seems to be the proper time to recharge. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you give your phone at least 1 full charge per day and try to avoid numerous, daily partial charges.
     
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    Yeah...I never partially charge. It always charges overnight....for about 8 hours or so.
     
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    Does this include all car chargers? They charge my phone in 1 hour, as opposed to my house charger, which takes 3 hours. Is that too fast?
     
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    I can't say for all brands of car chargers but I would recommend using a genuine Nokia charger (not an "OEM" type) for your phones.
     
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    The last 2 phones that I have had vx4400 and nokia 3589i takes about 4 hours to fully charge. I am using OEM chargers, anything much faster than that may cause problems.
     
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    Oh yes...I only use the Nokia chargers with the phones....

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is OEM again? :O
     
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    My phone shows up to 3 bars of battery life (always). So I should wait until it gets to 1 bar to charge it overnight or something?
     
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    Original Equipment Manufacturer

    OEM = it comes from the company that makes the phone
     
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    Shizam76, a car charger is not always as healthy on your battery as a home charger, especially those aftermarket chargers you can get cheap on Ebay. Now, it is not like a car charger will ruin your battery right away, but as a wise precaution, only use your car charger if necessary. Otherwise, just wait until you get home and plug the phone in your home charger.

    By the way, OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer.
     
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    Be careful with the usage and interpretation of OEM. I have seen numerous instances where online sellers refer to an apparently brand name (e.g. Nokia) part as "OEM" but when you read the fine print (or email them for clarification) the part that they are selling is "made to the same specifications as the Original Equipment Manufacturer." Ripoffs galore.
     
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    Eddie, the prevailing wisdom on this topic indicates that the best way to charge the Ion battery that is in your phone is to charge before the battery gets too low.

    These batteries have an estimated shelf life of about 12-18 months, before they begin to hold the charge less efficiently. If you charge when it is needed, do not let your battery get completely drained too often and use an OEM charger, you will get the maximum life from your battery.

    If you see any signs of deterioration near the one year ownership date, bring it back to your supplier, tell them the battery is blah, blah blah, they will probably replace it free, under the one year warranty.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Thanks for the explanation bobo and rich ;)
     
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    Also....the reps that I've dealt with at Cingular swear that it doesn't matter when or how often you charge the battery, it will be fine. And these batteries don't build up a memory like past days batteries. You guys agree/disagree with this?
     
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    I disagree 100%, with the statement it does not matter how it is charged. A while back an article was posted in this forum, I think by Tony, indicating the correct way to charge a battery. In summary, it said.

    Today's batteries, do not have the memory effect, but to maximize life, they should not be allowed to be nearly drained before charging; but, that would be good about once a month.

    I will see if I can find the article and post it here.
     
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    http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-partone-21.htm

    Not the article I was looking for, but just as good.

    How about making this a sticky or FAQ
     
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    Good article...thanks Rich
     
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    I made a copy of this thread and made it sticky = "Taking good care of your batteries..." :)
     
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    So now that the issue of properly charging your batteries with a "normal" charger has been addressed, can we please get back to the original topic? A reminder:

    I am also curious as to how the "sub-heading" of my thread title was changed from "Emergency Hand-Crank Battery Chargers" (I wrote this) to "Taking good care of your batteries..." :confused:
     
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    I fixed it. I just made a copy of Rich's post into another thread with the different title, but I guess a bug in the system changed the subtitle here.
     
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