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Does Alltel have an agreement with any provider in Berne, IN?

Discussion in 'Alltel Forum' started by TaeKwonDoughboy, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. TaeKwonDoughboy

    TaeKwonDoughboy New Member

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    Geetings,

    I am new to this forum. I have read a few posts about putting certain codes in the phone to pick up certain towers. I was hoping to do the same but I don't know where to start.

    Alltel has the best coverage of any provider in my home area. I recently started spending one week a month in Berne Indiana. Alltel signal is very week there.

    Centenial transmits from a tower on my company's property and we have a repeater in the plant across town to cover the area blocked by a building.

    I gues my questions are:
    1) Does Alltel have an agreement with any provider in Berne, IN?
    2) How do I find out what code to put in my phone to pick it up?
    3) How do I put the code in my phone?

    I have a Kyocera 7135

    Thanks,
    TaeKwonDoughboy
     
  2. MOTOhooligan

    MOTOhooligan Former Mobile Data Addict
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    These are the SIDs available in Indiana with an Alltel National Freedom plan.

    INDIANAPOLIS
    EVANSVILLE
    SOUTH BEND
    WARSAW
    LOGANSPORT
    JASPER
    SEYMOURS
    GREENSBURG
    INDIANAPOLIS
    FORT WAYNE
    SELVIN
    HAZLETON
    TERRE HAUTE
    NEWTON
    HUNTINGTON
    CRAWFORDSVILLE
    MICHIGAN CITY
    RANDOLPH
    EVANSVILLE
    BLOOMINGTON
    MARION
    FORT WAYNE
    SOUTHBEND

    Alltel only has towers in Burns Harbor, Nevada Mills, Indian Prairie and LaPorte, IN.
     
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  3. strunke

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    Have you tried forcing your phone over to analog? Might be able to get a much better signal that way. Alltel primarily uses VZW in Indiana.
     
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  4. TaeKwonDoughboy

    TaeKwonDoughboy New Member

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    Hadn't thought of that. I know I sometimes get an analog signal but hadn't considered forcing it. I'll give it a try next trip.

    Thanks
     
  5. TaeKwonDoughboy

    TaeKwonDoughboy New Member

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    When talking to an Alltel rep this morning I was told to call them next time I am there. They said the Total Freedom plan I have should allow me to connect to any tower. So when I don't have signal from an Alltel partner it should pick up the Centenial signal. I'll give them a call and maybe they can get me fixed up.
     
  6. alltelwirelesstech

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    The only thing total freedom will do is not bill you if you use a tower thats not part of national freedom... it won't open up any additional towers to your phone to use. Your rate plan will not help you.
     
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  7. TaeKwonDoughboy

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    He made it sound like I could use any tower. Is it possible for me to put in Centenial's SIDs while I'm there?
     
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    Your phone should use Centennial already on your National Freedom plan but I think you will get charged for it. Switching to Total Freedom will just not charge you for using their network, but not actually allowing your phone to use/see that SID...it should already lock on to Centennial if it's the only network available, but on your current plan you will pay roaming.
     
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    1. Yes, Verizon.
    2. Not required, the proper SID has been included in the PRL.
    3. N/A
    Centennial Wireless sells GSM phones in NE Indiana. Were it permitted by roaming agreement (or 911 call), the AMPS analog signal of the parking lot site would be available to you. The SID is 549, and the MNC is 310-030.

    COtech
     
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  10. TaeKwonDoughboy

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    I am on the Total Freedom plan and it will not lock onto Centenial even when there is no other signal. The Centenial tower is on our property but I have no signal!
     
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    Centenial's SID 549 is not in the Alltel PRL. If your phone's home SID is an even number (B band), it will only look on B band when no signal is present from a SID in the PRL. You could change the home SID on your phone to the Centenial SID and put the phone in "home only" mode to force your phone to use Centenial. When you leave Berne, put the phone back in standard scan.

    Kyocera programming instructions:
    1. Press [1],[1],[1],[1],[1],[1],[MENU]
    2. Enter Security Code (Default 000000)
    3. WRITE DOWN EVERTHING BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES
    4. Change the AMPS home SID to 549 and save. There is no need to change the CDMA home SID since Centenial does not have CDMA according to COtech.

    If Alltel does not have a roaming agreement with Centenial, you still won't be able to complete a call, except 911 and maybe credit card. It's probably worth a try though, since you have Total Freedom.

    royc
     
  12. TaeKwonDoughboy

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    Thank you Royc. I will give that a try next time I am there.

    Would I be able to receive a call, but not make one, if they don't have a roaming agreement?

    My co-workers are using the Motorola V555. The description says GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and Quad Mode. Does this mean their digital signal is not CDMA?
     
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    No, no calls in or out without a roaming agreement.

    Your co-workers have GSM digital phones, which work on Centennial. You have a CDMA digital phone, which doesn't GPRS/EDGE are for data, corresponding to 1xRTT and EVDO for CDMA phones.

    COtech
     
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    Ahhh. I think I understand now.
     
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    Centennial has migrated to GSM in Indiana, it's called Centennial Blue, your alltel CDMA phone cannot roam on that signal, centennial does use CDMA in other area's of the country. Hope this helps, generally Verizon has decent coverage up here same as Sprint.
     
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    If the phone is analog-capable, you still might be able to connect to Centennial in analog. If you can find in your menus, the roaming setting that shows Automatic A or Automatic B, try setting it to the opposite of the current setting.
     
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    Last I knew Cennetenial was running cdma and gsm in Michigan...

    It seems as though with a total freedom plan and giving that tower has amps or cdma on it you should have signal. It sounds like they only have gsm on that tower.
     
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    Centennial Wireless runs AMPS, TDMA and GSM in the the U.S. They do have a CDMA network in Puerto Rico.
     
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    not to sound condeseding but A and B does not really matter on phones anymore. I know some phones still have the setting where it says you can switch but PRLs caused that to not be looked at anymore. Alltel used to have an agreement with Cent but that has gone away. So you can try to force it using the home only trick but you can only call 911.Also, on most of the newer phones the home only trick no longer works if they SID is flagged negative in the PRL.. kinda sucks.
     
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    The "home only" trick works fine if the SID isn't neg'd in the PRL. It's very useful to get around the problem of my phone preferring a -104 dBm Alltel signal and ignoring a -85 dBm Verizon signal, where Verizon roaming is allowed.

    Automatic A and B settings (where available on handsets) will work if the phone cannot find a signal from any SID listed in the PRL. Otherwise, the PRL is in control and the setting is ignored. In that situation, my Moto, which does not have the Automatic A and B setting, will only look on B band, since I have a B band home SID.

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  21. TaeKwonDoughboy

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    I am back in Berne with a Motola V710 and want to try the AMPS SID thing. I forgot what the code was to access the programming menu. I thought it was 76641, menu, menu but that didn't work. I downloaded the manual but didn't see it. I hope someone here knows it off the top of their heads.

    I found it! 74663 # menu menu.
     
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    And the results were????????
     
  23. TaeKwonDoughboy

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    I couldn't tell until I came in to the office this morning. It didn't change anything. It may be that they don't have AMPS on this tower.
     

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