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Deadbeat customers, Verizon Wireless’ threats led to Amp’d bankruptcy

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by ComicalMoodyDan, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. ComicalMoodyDan

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    Deadbeat customers, Verizon Wireless’ threats led to Amp’d bankruptcy
    By Kelly Hill
    Story posted: June 5, 2007 - 2:07 pm EDT

    Amp’d Mobile Inc. blamed its rapid growth, back-office systems and collection problems as the reasons for its need to reorganize under Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and said that nearly half of its youthful customer base were not paying their bills by early 2007, according to the company’s bankruptcy filings.

    According to the filings, Amp’d had raised about $350 million in investment money and had about $31 million in debt investments. The company began to run into troubles after it hit the 100,000-subscriber mark in late 2006. Amp’d said that about 90% of its customers were on 18-month postpaid service contracts, and in early 2007 the company “began to find a host of credit and collections problems and contributed ultimately to a liquidity crisis.”

    The MVNO tried to address the issues, Amp’d said, but “its business model could not sustain such revenue collections problems.” By May, the company estimated that it had about 80,000 non-paying customers—or nearly half its customer base, given that the MVNO said it was close to reaching 200,000 subscribers at that time. Amp’d tried to raise more money, hoping to stave off the reorganization, but a last-ditch effort fell through when Verizon Wireless demanded a $4.5 million payment and accused Amp’d of defaulting on its wholesale agreement. Verizon Wireless then sent a letter terminating the company’s wholesale agreement and threatening to disconnect Amp’d subscribers from its network. On the same evening Amp’d received the letter from Verizon Wireless, the company filed for bankruptcy protection.

    Amp’d said it plans to protest the validity of Verizon Wireless’ termination letter, and said that it is working with “one of Amp’d Mobile’s largest investors to obtain debtor-in-possession financing.” The company’s largest creditors include Verizon Wireless (owed $33 million); Motorola Inc. ($16 million); Vivendi ($10 million); Horizon Media Inc. ($8.6 million) and Best Buy ($8 million). Vivendi/Universal Music Group is the company’s largest single investor, according to the filings.

    Amp’d Mobile’s founder and CEO Peter Adderton, who initially financed the company before its venture capital investors came on board, still owns a substantial chunk of the company. Aurli Bokovza, director of public relations for Amp’d, confirmed that at this point Adderton is still the company’s CEO despite rumors to the contrary, and that the company’s international operations in Canada and Japan won’t be affected by the bankruptcy filing.

    Amp’d Mobile’s filings also revealed:

    --The company’s users consumed more than 4 million videos, songs and mobile games in the first quarter of 2007, doubling the MVNO’s fourth quarter 2006 figure.

    --The company has 229 employees in the United States, with a bi-monthly payroll of about $990,000.

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    Poor Amp'd.

    At least we know that VZW Broadband users who go over 5 GB's aren't the only ones getting "that letter.' :p

    80,000 non-paying customers? Ouch. Talk about deadbeat clients. I'm sure those same non-payers ported to Sprint SERO plans. Haha. Just kidding Dan! :D

    I know people complain about how some carriers charge deposits and/or strict about enforcing that policy, but at some point they have to protect thier investment.

    Even if Amp'd pulls off the Chapter 11 reorganization, who is to say they'll remain in Verizon's favor for very long? The other alternative might prove too expensive in implementation but would include changing their network partner; assuming someone else would pick them up.

    Time will only tell.
     
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    Fire14 Easy,Cheap & Sleazy
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    With their reporting the large ARPU in the area of $100.00 this is a bigh ouch.
    I wonder if they will keep Verizon off their backs with the Chapter 11?
    I think Amp'd may be in bigger trouble then they are leading too.
     
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    Yeah. Helio's average cost per acquisition as of March '07 was in the $ 1,300 - $ 1,400 range too if you include the "don't call it a phone," subsidy discount. If you think about it, how many months of loyal service must a customer remain without any additional credits or freebees to make up for that lost amount when you consider part of the monthly revenue goes back to the network operator? It's rediculous considering their target demographic is fickle and likes discounts on new gadgetry just as much as we do.

    Like Amp'd, Helio has been forced to shut thousands of customers off per month due to non payment. If you are the size of VZW, its not a big deal. But when you are a small time player, thousands of disconnects per month due to non payment is a HUGE deal.

    I don't know how long they can keep that up but they are counting on drastically cutting those losses in half by 2009 according to their forecast models.

    It's still nice to have an alternative to the big guys so for their sake I hope they can pull it around before they are forced to default on their debts.
     
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  5. well, about half of the guys over on the amp'd forum at hofo have ported over to SERO, so YourDaddy may pretty correct in post #2!
     
  6. rytard

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    MVNO's arent that umportant people should go out and get a real provider ([coughs] Verizon)
     

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