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Data Plan vs. Smart Phone Data Plan?

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by Trinition, May 6, 2009.

  1. Trinition

    Trinition New Member

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    My small, local carrier, Cincinnati Bell Wireless (Welcome to Cincinnati Bell) has given me a geat deal on a data plan for years now: $15/month for unlimited data and texting. I use roughly 20MB/month on my Nokia 6300. They're a GSM carrier who I hear actually leases network from AT&T.

    I'd now like to upgrade to something like a Nokia N95 or Nokia 5800. However, they say this requires a "Smart Phone Data Plan" which is roughly $30/month.

    My question is: what's the technical difference? They told me that because a Smart Phone is "always connected", it costs more. But there's nothing stopping me from using a problem on my phone now that does data transmission non-stop (right now I use Google Mail app, Opera Mini, Weather app, RSS Reader app, Chat app, etc.). Are they just trying to leach more money out of me, or is there truly something that would prevent me from using, say, a self-purchased unlocked Nokia 5800 with my current SIM card and leverage my existing data plan as is?
     
  2. KevinJames

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    Your current data plan was probably "grandfathered." This means that they won't increase the service price until the subscriber does something to change the service. Typically, buying a new phone is one of those types of events. Though there shouldn't be any technical reason (and I find the "always connected" story to be bit hard to swallow because all phones that are turned on are theoretically "connected" (active subscription)) it is indeed a reason they use. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that they won't permit you to remain on the grandfathered plan when upgrading.

    As to the price, I pay about that (actually more) here in CA. All things considered, you're probably still getting a good deal. If Sprint is in your area and coverage is good, their plans are less expensive.
     
  3. zamboni77

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    15.00 data plans are for regular phones.
    30.00 plans are for smartphones which are considered business phones.
    They figure you will use more data than someone with a regular phone.



    and welcome to the forum...I haven't been on here in a very long time!
     
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  4. Chinasaur

    Chinasaur Senior Member
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    Buy the phone yourself and swap the SIM. if you don't tell them you've switched handsets, they probably don't have the tools to notice you've switched devices. The beauty of GSM :)
     
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    For years on Cingular/AT&T I was using the $19.99 unlimited internet package with Windows Mobile PDA phones. They never caught on. Currently though I am now grandfathered in on the $19.99 Smartphone Connect Unlimited plan which includes unlimited internet and mobile email.

    -Jay
     
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  6. Trinition

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    For what its worth, I did buy the phone outright (Nokia 5800... through Dell... fully unlocked) and slipped my SIM card in. It works! That said, they do see that my phone is the new model, but no one has done anything about it yet.

    Now I say it works, but I'm not sure if its fully working. I can certainly make calls and browse the web. However, during the settings push from Cincinnati Bell Wireless, it created two access points: an "Internet" access point (packet data, web.gocbw.com) and a "WAP services" access point (packet data, wap.gocbw.com). The former never works and the latter always does.

    I also seem to only be able to have one connection open at a time. I could only run one program at a time on my old phone, so I don't know if this is a limitation of CBW, GSM or the "dumb" data plan.
     

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