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Cingular "Raising the Bar" in Salt Lake City...not really

Discussion in 'Western US Wireless Forum' started by Andy, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. Andy

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    As some of you know, I live in Sandy, which is in the Southeastern part of the Salt Lake Valley. Cingular just recently activated a new site, and partially dismanteled another one and signal in my neighborhood is now almost non-existent.

    Cingular added a cellsite at a school, camouflaged as a flagpole just about two weeks ago. I didn't really see the need for this site as another cellsite on a hill 3/4 mile northeast gave this area great service and there is another site within direct line of sight 1/2 mile south on a hill. Okay, seemed like a nice addition. I get home, turn on my Cingular phone and get one bar and nothing but garble inside and out. So I went to the Cingular site on the hill 1/2 mile south of the new site...Verizon has a site there on a tall tower- that site provides me with great service at my house. Cingular's site seems much smaller now and is(as has alwasy been) mounted on the water tower very close to ground level.
    I've never experienced capacity issues in my neighbhorhod/area so I'm not sure what this site is for. My yard borders the Willow Creek Golf Course and service is just miserable here now.

    On a lighter note, Cingular did add a site boosting service along the Eastside Belt I-215 at 4600 South. This area used to garble very badly, even though the signal was good even before this addition...I have pictures of all of these sites, I will post them soon.

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    Oh and I almost forgot: The funniest thing about this is that with the last update to their street level maps, this area went from Good in some outlying areas of my neighborhod to BEST, even though coverage went from one to two bars and some garbling(no coverage inside) to one bar outside, none inside, and garbling inside and out.
     

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    Disclaimer: since I don't live there, I can only guess.

    That said, you say you haven't seen a capacity issue there, but on the other hand
    both of those sites are on hills, which means they can be "seen" at a distance.
    My guess is that if capacity issues aren't in your 'hood, maybe they are elsewhere
    that are getting interference or unwanted handoffs from those hilltops.

    Personally, I'm still amazed there are as many hilltop sites still in operation here in
    Reno as there are. Verizon has the most, but being dual-band and CDMA they
    can get away with a lot other carriers can't. But this one very heavily used
    mountain/hill (Red Peak, on the north side of the valley and about 1000 feet above
    it) has sites by VZW, AWS/Cingular/blue, AND--if you can believe this--Nextel!!
    This has to be one of the VERY FEW high-level Nextel sites I've ever seen in my
    life! But I do think this may be one of the last.

    Anyway, back to your issue: the only way to know for sure is if you had an
    assigned frequency map of each cell and played around with some plotting.
    Unfortunately, that's a closely-held secret; however, with a phone's test settings
    (or better yet, a real tester, assuming you're that rich) you could drive around
    and plot them out.

    Mike
     
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    Thanks for your response, Mike.
    I don't have that much time to spend to drive around with equipment or whatever, but It would be interesting nevertheless. Even though those sites are on hilltops, Cingular has sites within a mile or less radius of each of those sites and this area is mostly residential and there is not all that much traffic. Cingular doesn't have all that many customers in this area, Verizon has the most and they have less cellsites and do fine.
    Cingular dropped the ball on this one, cutting coverage to a higher level neighborhod and golf course. It is also sad to see them to this change in coverage and mark their street level coverage maps as better than before, even though coverage has gotten worse...I guess they think that they improved coverage...Oh well.
     
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    Okay, so I took a screenshot of the Cingular street level maps and edited it to picture things a little better. The dots represent Cingular sites in this area- as you can see, it's a relatively small area that is covered by a lot of sites. The sites marked with X's are the ones I talked about in my posts. The site by Flat Iron Mesa is the one that has been paritally dismanteled- that is the site that used to cover my neighborhod better than now with the new site.
    The circled areas are areas where Cingular signal is very weak outside and almost nonexistant inside...Interestingly everywhere is marked as BEST coverage.
     

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