Cingular MOST Reliable in NY/NJ

I find this article hard to swallow.
I know people who have cingular in the New Providence/ Murray Hill area that cannot wait to go back to verizon because of signal strength.
IMHO I think its verizon that is second to none in the NY/NJ metro area.

 

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I figured some one would have a come back like this.

 

I highly doubt this.

 

read the "press release" carefully, it does not mention or address "signal strength" Just "dropped" calls. :

... "Hello, ABC 3rd party marketing, this is Bill from Cingular. We would like to hire you to do a test. Here's 5 fones, please drive around on metro area roads & make calls for 3 days. Tell us if any calls Dropped. "

(3 days later)... " Hello, Bill, This is ABC marketing... Only 1 call dropped. "Ok thanks ABC. ... Hey Tom, get someone in the press release dept to compose a big statement about how we hired a 3rd party & play up how great our network is. Make sure it is confusing enough so that people will think it means we have more cells, better signal strength , Less dropped calls & better coverage than everyone, yet worded carefully so that it doesn't Actually say any of that..... "Will do, Bill" ..... :browani:

 

WOWEE WOWEE I am going to rush right down to Cingular and get four paperweights because of this news. It will be well worth $700 in termination fees. Thanks for the info.

 

While I'll concede that Cingular has made great strides in the NY metro area, I can't let a press release like this go until Cingular coughs up some hard data to back up their assertions. It's easy to issue a press release touting 'fewest dropped calls' without mentioning who did the testing, the criteria used for the testing, and which competitors they had data on.

What's more, this sentence is HIGHLY suspect:

GSM's hard handoffs from one tower to another make this statement highly improbable in the face of competition from two major CDMA carriers. Again, where's your hard data, Cingular?

Don't get me wrong, I have no great love for VZW, Sprint, or any of the other carriers, but I DO detest misleading advertising. (And yes, Jones, I know that VZW isn't exactly the most forthright in their advertising either. And when I see BS from them, I'll call them on that too.)

 

"EDGE is the fastest national wireless data network in the country. "

You know the entire article is bunk with this statement. That's what I call a 'spin' as it is not nationwide and not the fastest. I guess they never heard of EVDO.

http://www.dslreports.com/archive/spcsdns.net

 

I'm guessing they are defining that as deployed in 100% of their coverage area (native)?

This PR is even more vague than one from Verizon Anyone see the ad? At least VZW gives you a URL to get more info.

 

we all know verizon wins this catagory...anyone can publish crap

 

Seems very few people think so and this isn't even a Verizon forum

 

Yes, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and congratulations to them.

Jones, no one is buying what you're selling here. Just let it go.

 

Hey, down in middlesex county/ momouth county, that area, cingular is great. But up north my friends and I had/ have nothing but problems with them.
To each his own. I wish I was on cingular because of lower price plans for data, but verizon gives me the coverage I need.

 

Agreed. Just because t-mobile has been the only carrier to put up a new cell site in my area in probably the last 10 years does not mean that they are the best!

 

I often drive the entire length of 287, and never have "handoff problems" The whole handoff difference is lame. Verizon get worse and worse. It even rarer i hear clicking. Hey Verizon if your so great, why do you have contracts?

 

?????
what service do you know of that doesn't require a contract

 

We have some silver members here with a lot of posts. That doesn't make them all useful.

 

You arent missing anything. Cingulars network in my area on Nassau county has been terrible. My friend 5 houses down the road tried ATT out about a year ago and it was absolutly miserable. To my knowledge, no new towers have been put up by cingular in this area. Only T-mobile.

 

If that's the case, then Verizon must be really bad.

They should take a drive around Wayne, NJ and see that even T-Mobile has less dropped calls than Cingular.

This statement says it all. This is just an advertising campaing to boost public perception. Nothing else.

Again, pay attention to Wayne. It was fine until last week. Valley Rd, Hamburgh Tpke. have problems.

This is were most people get confused. They are not saying the fastest alone. They are saying the fastest AND nationwide. Yes, EDGE is nationwide. Until EVDO is nationwide, Cingular can still make that claim.

What you are missing is the fact that customer base is constantly growing and as a result, more and more capacity is needed. Cellsites are not installed just to cover an area, they are also to increase capacity. Remember the frequency reuse principle? Even if you cover 100% of an area, you still need to add more sites as your customer base grows.

 

I hear what you are saying, and if we were talking about a CDMA network where the power of the phone can be turned down when a tower is closer, yes, you can add towers for capacity.

But correct me if I am wrong, isnt a GSM phone not able to do that? So if you cant turn the power down on the phone, than any tower in range of that phone cant reuse the channel/time slot that phone is using? In that case, why would adding more towers increase capacity?

 

I'll correct your statement, it is wrong. Every cell phone technology from AMPS (analog) through CDMA and GSM has handset power output controlled by the tower. It is a way to conserve handset battery life and maintain RF balance to the cell tower.

For GSM, the handset RF power output can be varied from a couple of milliwatts to 2 watts, almost 1000:1

Best, viewfly