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Cingular is getting PTT!!

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by CingularGSM!, Mar 12, 2005.

  1. CingularGSM!

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    Hello,

    I hear that Cingular Wireless GSM is going to deploy PTT (well the tentive date anyways) August/September of 2005 - which would be in the 4th Quarter. Cingular will be launching their PTT network nationwide.


    As far as I know Cingular hasn't picked a PTT hardware provider yet. Cingular is looking into Nokia or SE though.

    Cingular will be introducing "intercarrier ptt".

    I think that Cingular will deploy their PTT network via the Kodiak system, but I may be wrong.
     
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    Cingular can't just introduce interactive PTT, carriers would have to work together to do that, and it would certainly be a lot of work.
     
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    O I thought INTERcarrier PTT was just when you PTT Cingular to/from Cingular. Whoops, my bad.
     
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    O-I don't know, re-reading I think intercarrier, not interactive, like I said, might mean Cingular/Cingular ;)
     
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    I remember reading somewhere else they have been testing this for over 6 months now in GA, so I would be suprised if they do launch this around September of this year. Hope they have a better sound to notify you when someone is calling you then the Chirp that Nextel use's.
     
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    This is too funny. Yahoo!Man and his many personalities keep on trying to show up even after he's been banned....HOW MANY TIMES!?!?!? ROFL
     
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    That would be intra-carrier.
     
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    Yup, I noticed after re-reading this post ;)
     
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    LOL!!! :D
     
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    OK I just stumbled across this forum today, so since it would seem that the cats hopping out of the bag here's is what I have been kinda informed about. Alltel and Cingular as far I have been told are in talks to offer Touch2Talk across the Kodiak network. And yes if you will pay the extra price for it you can talk and group call each other just what I have been told right. This is to push the failing all around service for every one. One other that is in the works are all Alltel customers soon hopefully will be able to use there Touch2Talk anywhere in the National Freedom network as of right now you have to be in the Alltel net work to start a conversation, but you can receive anywhere in the National Freedom plan. I have hopes for better phones on our part anyway we have had some talks with Motorolla to produce a T2T phone off of the T720 body build or thats the rumor mill anyway. So far the Kyocera 3250 is our top T2T phone since the speaker phone on the SE44 Slider just sucks. And I tell that to all of our customers that ask. But if all goes well this will be the first step to fighting the two way radio war against Nextel who held the patient on it for so long. Just a note to any Alltel customers 7pm night and weekends is now available for $7 a month.
     
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    Cingular & Alltel, that is an odd combination to work together to offer PTT, especially since they compete against one another & use different technology's.
    I would have thought they would have worked with Suncom or T-Mobile.
     
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    Well really that is the beauty of Kodiak's network. Really Alltel doesn't do anything they just sell a third party product. If Cingular, Alltel, Verizon, and U.S. Cellular all set there equiptment up to log into the Kodiak system then you have a two way system with a huge subcriber base. Touch2Talk is just an add-on like our axcess apps where it's just a third party involved. Thats the beauty of it all the system doesn't have to match it kinda works like an IM chat just because you use AOL and someone else is on MSN you can still talk to each other. Just login and I know your online right. Of course they do make money with this and oh my could you see the profit they would make for people to be able to just push a button and talk to anyone. I'm sure people would pay $10 bucks a months for that one. But its not here yet and could blow-up on the launch pad. I know that Alltel would love to charge an extra fee to let you connect to other wireless companys customers with Touch2Talk.
     
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    Cingular and *ALLTEL* -- what is the industry coming to?

    Does T-Mobile even know what PTT is? (Unless they go with Kodiak I can't see any way they can offer PTT at all, given that they probably don't have the capacity on their GPRS network -- thank you, Sidekicks and cheap data ;) -- to go the VoIP route.)

    -SC
     
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    I take it push to talk it is an unsecure way to call where CDMA is secure (hard for 3rd party to listen in)?
     
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    OK there is a catch 22 in this matter. The connection over cdma or any digital connection is encrypted. But here is the kicker Touch2Talk works in analog as well, so we all kind of know what that means. Remember the deal with early cordless phones, even if you were on a corded line you could still be heard if the other party involved is on a cordless phone right. Well as far as Kodiak listening in on conversations I'm not real sure, I know that the way it connects from phone to phone is through an encrypted wireless connection. I can't tell you much more than that.
     
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    T-Mobile is using PTT in Europe, I believe they started using it a couple of months ago in Germany, Thats why i was wondering why Cingular wasn't going to try it with them instead, since they have a small amt. of experience with it.
     
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    Well I don't know what Cingular is doing now but they at this time are no longer looking to Kodiak from what the new buzz is. So what ever Cingular decides to is do is up in the air at this point. I'm sure they will roll something out soon for all you Cingular customers. In the mean time Alltel has just increased there Touch2Talk coverage by about 50%, allowing customers to now initiate PTT calls anywhere in the National Freedom coverage area.
     
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    So is T-Mobile, they told us at work that it supposed to start happening by the end of this year.
     
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    ^^ That has not been officially announced, although you could be correct. :D
     
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    Could be huh? ;)
     
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    Look for intercarrier PTT to be introduced first by Nextel and probably Sprint (since they are planning to merge) custom.marketwatch.com/custom/earth...FF1-B600-E9B30CF44524}&destination=&symb=nxtl
    For any intercarrier PTT to work between Nextel's iDen network and any other required some technical hurdles to be overcome. Now that iDen-to-CDMA PTT has been achieved, Sprint will probably be where this goes.
     
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    I wonder how this will work, because Sprint's Ready Link is VoIP and normally lags way behind Nextel's Direct Connect. There is about a 1-2 second delay with Sprint. I can only see problems with this to start with.
     
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    Trust me, there will be problems!
     
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    I'd hope they iron out any seriously crippling problems before they sell the product to consumers.
     
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    Oh and you know that you will have to buy all new equipment, and if your like me that means a new phone,car charger, data cables, and a nice case. So then SprintNextel will make a nice profit margin. Go figure right.
    Hey how did we get on this subject, thought this was a Cingular PTT thread?? LOL
     
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    Hello there. I am new to the forum and this is my first post.

    That's ok with me about purchasing new equipment. I want to buy the new Motorola SLVR V8 when it is available later this year. It is my understanding that it will have PTT capabilities. Anyone out there know if it would work with either the T-Mobile or Cingular rumored PTT technology?

    THX
     
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    from the experiance stand point cingular got a huge boost with the purchase of AT&T. AT&T already had their network provisioned fot PTT role out, but never initiated it do to the merger. There were AT&T phones lined up to work with PTT but they were not released. The orginal role out for AT&T PTT was to be fore the end of last year, but then the room went orange and the plug was pulled :cool:
     
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    Well it looks like that Cingular's PTT is going to be circuit switched solution which should be good.
     
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    How is that going to work? Similar to CSD? :confused:
     
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    I don't know. It was posted by Bobolito in HoFo from "ask the Cingular CEO" thread. The CEO answered questions by people regarding various issues and he mentioned that Cingular PTT was going to be a circuit switched solution unlike VZW failed VoIP solution.
     
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